robmypro

I feel a recall coming.

Macca

They'll never do it. The publicity wouldnt bode well for them. It will be handled by warranty....

RealityGT

Doesn't bode well for the .2 gt3

robmypro

Or the G engines. But...I just drive mine.

isv

Interesting the RS is thought by some to ultimately be likely to have the same fate as the gt3 engines so far. Just was at the 'ring yesterday and plenty of 991RS were being tracked and had been by some for quite a few days already so far this year. As far as I heard, so far the RS is holding up very well and is proving pretty reliable, and quite unlike the gt3 at a similar stage of usage. Be interesting to see by the end of the year how the RS fares and indeed if it proves problematic.

JCtx

No recalls unless lives are at stake. And many times manufacturers don't do it until forced by the NHTSA. Never seen a manufacturer even issue a TSB for known engine failure issues, including BMW, Porsche, and GM. Anyway, my guess is the lower rev ceiling on RSs may have something to do with lack of failures so far. We'll find out soon enough.

GrantG

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Macca

I think it's still too early to know for RS and GT3 G engine. If one fails the other will too. It took nearly 2 years for E engines to start to go and many had two seasons of heavy track use. Then there are folks like Manifold & OrthoJoe that have 5000 plus track miles on F engines and still no issues. By end of next season I guess we will know more. By then 991.2 will be inky a month away from first deliveries...

Chris3963

Your hunch was right. The garage sent photos, graphs, etc of my engine to PAG and they have decided to just do a top end rebuild. Apparently, my F series engine already has a number of key improvements that were made as running updates. e.g, one item mentioned was updated oil squirters. So they are just going to rebuild the top end. I find out tomorrow exactly what parts they will be replacing.

I guess this is both good and bad.

Bad in that its not a completely new G series engine, but good in that at least the engine number will be original as I know that some 2nd hand buyers are a bit sensitive about numbers not matching.

levd

It has nothing to do with improvements of F. PAG decided to rebuild my E this summer.

I believe it's only a matter of 2-3K more track miles combined with some road miles till both of us will get a G, or whatever the next incarnation will be, anyway. It's a destiny of all 991.1 GT3s, except the barely getting used ones.

robmypro

You guys are probably right. You know more about this than I do.

R.Deacon

4k+ T miles 15k total miles on an F motor no issues thus far Macca ,

reluctantly posting this info for concern of doming myself , oh well , didn't buy to sit inn the garage

recently on track pause mode , looking forward to logging more laps down the road so to speak .

bruce987

The mechanic made it sound like it only takes a few minutes for it to recalculate. It seems whenever I add oil, the oil indicator stops working for a while.

GrantG

Supposedly (according to well-informed fellow Rennlist member and 918 VIP member with good access), the .2 GT3 has a motor with a totally new oiling system.

The 2014 GT3 E motor was Version 1, the G motor (including R and RS) was Verison 1.5, the GT3R Race Car was Version 2.0 and the new 991.2 GT3 will be version 2.5 (even improved from race car where the oiling lessons were fully understood in competition).

Can't know whether this is a complete fix, but sounds promising enough to me to give it a shot.

neanicu

Well Apple is at 9.3.3,so Porsche still got time...