New PCCB and Track days – Facts Feedback Thread
#391
Three Wheelin'
Originally Posted by Karl911
I had my front PCCB rotors refurbished at Sicom for $5K!
Last edited by meaker; 06-05-2016 at 01:32 PM.
#392
Race Director
Originally Posted by Karl911
I had my front PCCB rotors refurbished at Sicom for $5K!
#393
Humm their website says these are the prices?
SICOM Refurbishment - worldwide exclusive service!
SICOM brake disc refurbished
revitalized CCM disc of a Ferrari
for more informations please visit our Refurbishment Website www.ceramicdiscrefurbishment.com
We refurbish used or damaged ceramic brake disk rotors regardless of make or age of the rotors. Until now, worn or damaged rotors had to be replaced with expensive OEM parts. In General, just the friction surface of the brakedisc is destroyed (1-1,5 mm) but the core (90% of the volume) is untouched. We are removing the destroyed layer and add new layers with surface.
Refurbishment prices:
to 360 mm 793,00 €
to 380 mm 890,00 €
to 400 mm 950,00 €
to 420 mm 1.150,00 €
additional costs: assembling and centering hat and disc: 35,00 €
core deposit for used disc in return 700,00 €
SICOM Refurbishment - worldwide exclusive service!
SICOM brake disc refurbished
revitalized CCM disc of a Ferrari
for more informations please visit our Refurbishment Website www.ceramicdiscrefurbishment.com
We refurbish used or damaged ceramic brake disk rotors regardless of make or age of the rotors. Until now, worn or damaged rotors had to be replaced with expensive OEM parts. In General, just the friction surface of the brakedisc is destroyed (1-1,5 mm) but the core (90% of the volume) is untouched. We are removing the destroyed layer and add new layers with surface.
Refurbishment prices:
to 360 mm 793,00 €
to 380 mm 890,00 €
to 400 mm 950,00 €
to 420 mm 1.150,00 €
additional costs: assembling and centering hat and disc: 35,00 €
core deposit for used disc in return 700,00 €
#394
OEM Approved Surface Transforms CCB Kit
Guys, wanted to toss this one into the arena due to overlap :
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r/932365-review-oem-surface-transforms-pccb-rotor-kit-for-991-gt3.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r/932365-review-oem-surface-transforms-pccb-rotor-kit-for-991-gt3.html
#395
Burning Brakes
Humm their website says these are the prices?
SICOM Refurbishment - worldwide exclusive service!
SICOM brake disc refurbished
revitalized CCM disc of a Ferrari
for more informations please visit our Refurbishment Website www.ceramicdiscrefurbishment.com
We refurbish used or damaged ceramic brake disk rotors regardless of make or age of the rotors. Until now, worn or damaged rotors had to be replaced with expensive OEM parts. In General, just the friction surface of the brakedisc is destroyed (1-1,5 mm) but the core (90% of the volume) is untouched. We are removing the destroyed layer and add new layers with surface.
Refurbishment prices:
to 360 mm 793,00 €
to 380 mm 890,00 €
to 400 mm 950,00 €
to 420 mm 1.150,00 €
additional costs: assembling and centering hat and disc: 35,00 €
core deposit for used disc in return 700,00 €
SICOM Refurbishment - worldwide exclusive service!
SICOM brake disc refurbished
revitalized CCM disc of a Ferrari
for more informations please visit our Refurbishment Website www.ceramicdiscrefurbishment.com
We refurbish used or damaged ceramic brake disk rotors regardless of make or age of the rotors. Until now, worn or damaged rotors had to be replaced with expensive OEM parts. In General, just the friction surface of the brakedisc is destroyed (1-1,5 mm) but the core (90% of the volume) is untouched. We are removing the destroyed layer and add new layers with surface.
Refurbishment prices:
to 360 mm 793,00 €
to 380 mm 890,00 €
to 400 mm 950,00 €
to 420 mm 1.150,00 €
additional costs: assembling and centering hat and disc: 35,00 €
core deposit for used disc in return 700,00 €
Thanks for info.
Checking on pricing !
#397
Burning Brakes
Humm their website says these are the prices?
SICOM Refurbishment - worldwide exclusive service!
SICOM brake disc refurbished
revitalized CCM disc of a Ferrari
for more informations please visit our Refurbishment Website www.ceramicdiscrefurbishment.com
We refurbish used or damaged ceramic brake disk rotors regardless of make or age of the rotors. Until now, worn or damaged rotors had to be replaced with expensive OEM parts. In General, just the friction surface of the brakedisc is destroyed (1-1,5 mm) but the core (90% of the volume) is untouched. We are removing the destroyed layer and add new layers with surface.
Refurbishment prices:
to 360 mm 793,00 €
to 380 mm 890,00 €
to 400 mm 950,00 €
to 420 mm 1.150,00 €
additional costs: assembling and centering hat and disc: 35,00 €
deposit for used disc in return 700,00 €
SICOM Refurbishment - worldwide exclusive service!
SICOM brake disc refurbished
revitalized CCM disc of a Ferrari
for more informations please visit our Refurbishment Website www.ceramicdiscrefurbishment.com
We refurbish used or damaged ceramic brake disk rotors regardless of make or age of the rotors. Until now, worn or damaged rotors had to be replaced with expensive OEM parts. In General, just the friction surface of the brakedisc is destroyed (1-1,5 mm) but the core (90% of the volume) is untouched. We are removing the destroyed layer and add new layers with surface.
Refurbishment prices:
to 360 mm 793,00 €
to 380 mm 890,00 €
to 400 mm 950,00 €
to 420 mm 1.150,00 €
additional costs: assembling and centering hat and disc: 35,00 €
deposit for used disc in return 700,00 €
I got my final price going through a 3rd party , refurbrished front rotors $3150 including all freight from DE.
Next time I will contact Sicom directly!
#401
To put it in perspective with steel longevity, I replaced mine after 2 sets of pads (pagid rs29 used ~50%, and pfc11). Total km on track with them : ~5500km. They had some life remaining but since I was replacing front pads...
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#402
Rennlist Member
To those who may care: Here is an update on my PCCB measurements just completed
Additional 490 track miles: Total track miles: 2,840 miles, Total combined 21,533 miles
August 2016 ------------------------- Wear Limit
LFr 40.5/43.6/47.1 ------------------------- 38/39/43
RFr 49.5/52.4/50.6--------------------------44/44/44
LRr 54.7/52.7/53.8--------------------------44/42/44
RRr 52.1/57.7/54.1---------------------------47/48/46
These updated measurements are updates from March 2016. These measurements are after a 3 day event at COTA (hard on brakes) and 1 day at Auto Club Speedway for a total of 490 additional track miles. My left front rotor continues to be the closest to the wear limit, particularly the first measurement. That being said, the PCCBs continue to hang in there. I have done a total of 32 track days on these rotors. They appear to have a few more in them.
Additional 490 track miles: Total track miles: 2,840 miles, Total combined 21,533 miles
August 2016 ------------------------- Wear Limit
LFr 40.5/43.6/47.1 ------------------------- 38/39/43
RFr 49.5/52.4/50.6--------------------------44/44/44
LRr 54.7/52.7/53.8--------------------------44/42/44
RRr 52.1/57.7/54.1---------------------------47/48/46
These updated measurements are updates from March 2016. These measurements are after a 3 day event at COTA (hard on brakes) and 1 day at Auto Club Speedway for a total of 490 additional track miles. My left front rotor continues to be the closest to the wear limit, particularly the first measurement. That being said, the PCCBs continue to hang in there. I have done a total of 32 track days on these rotors. They appear to have a few more in them.
#403
Good data -- you don't sound too disappointed in the PCCBs. I switched to steel rotors after 14,750 miles total including 2,086 track miles. The front PCCB rotors on my car measured 79 to 81% remaining life and the rear's measured 84 to 88% remaining. Quite a bit better that your experience.
But 80% of my track miles are at Lime Rock which is relatively easy on brakes -- at least at my times of 1:00 to 1:02 laps. The other 20% is at Sebring where my best laps times are 2:26 to 2:30. I am only two years into tracking my car, and minimizing lap times is not my primary objective -- good technique, smoothness, feeling the car and not pushing it to my personal limits are my objectives. I also change my brake pads at about 6-7 mm.
That said, I just bought a GT4 with PCCBs as I really like the feel of these brakes. And if I can get something approaching 8,000 tracks miles out of a set of rotors, I won't complain.
But 80% of my track miles are at Lime Rock which is relatively easy on brakes -- at least at my times of 1:00 to 1:02 laps. The other 20% is at Sebring where my best laps times are 2:26 to 2:30. I am only two years into tracking my car, and minimizing lap times is not my primary objective -- good technique, smoothness, feeling the car and not pushing it to my personal limits are my objectives. I also change my brake pads at about 6-7 mm.
That said, I just bought a GT4 with PCCBs as I really like the feel of these brakes. And if I can get something approaching 8,000 tracks miles out of a set of rotors, I won't complain.
#404
To those who may care: Here is an update on my PCCB measurements just completed
Additional 490 track miles: Total track miles: 2,840 miles, Total combined 21,533 miles
August 2016 ------------------------- Wear Limit
LFr 40.5/43.6/47.1 ------------------------- 38/39/43
RFr 49.5/52.4/50.6--------------------------44/44/44
LRr 54.7/52.7/53.8--------------------------44/42/44
RRr 52.1/57.7/54.1---------------------------47/48/46
These updated measurements are updates from March 2016. These measurements are after a 3 day event at COTA (hard on brakes) and 1 day at Auto Club Speedway for a total of 490 additional track miles. My left front rotor continues to be the closest to the wear limit, particularly the first measurement. That being said, the PCCBs continue to hang in there. I have done a total of 32 track days on these rotors. They appear to have a few more in them.
Additional 490 track miles: Total track miles: 2,840 miles, Total combined 21,533 miles
August 2016 ------------------------- Wear Limit
LFr 40.5/43.6/47.1 ------------------------- 38/39/43
RFr 49.5/52.4/50.6--------------------------44/44/44
LRr 54.7/52.7/53.8--------------------------44/42/44
RRr 52.1/57.7/54.1---------------------------47/48/46
These updated measurements are updates from March 2016. These measurements are after a 3 day event at COTA (hard on brakes) and 1 day at Auto Club Speedway for a total of 490 additional track miles. My left front rotor continues to be the closest to the wear limit, particularly the first measurement. That being said, the PCCBs continue to hang in there. I have done a total of 32 track days on these rotors. They appear to have a few more in them.
Thanks for sharing your data. I have just a few track days on my GT4 with PCCB, so this is good news for me.
#405
Three Wheelin'
Originally Posted by SanDiegoDavid
To those who may care: Here is an update on my PCCB measurements just completed
Additional 490 track miles: Total track miles: 2,840 miles, Total combined 21,533 miles
August 2016 ------------------------- Wear Limit
LFr 40.5/43.6/47.1 ------------------------- 38/39/43
RFr 49.5/52.4/50.6--------------------------44/44/44
LRr 54.7/52.7/53.8--------------------------44/42/44
RRr 52.1/57.7/54.1---------------------------47/48/46
These updated measurements are updates from March 2016. These measurements are after a 3 day event at COTA (hard on brakes) and 1 day at Auto Club Speedway for a total of 490 additional track miles. My left front rotor continues to be the closest to the wear limit, particularly the first measurement. That being said, the PCCBs continue to hang in there. I have done a total of 32 track days on these rotors. They appear to have a few more in them.
Additional 490 track miles: Total track miles: 2,840 miles, Total combined 21,533 miles
August 2016 ------------------------- Wear Limit
LFr 40.5/43.6/47.1 ------------------------- 38/39/43
RFr 49.5/52.4/50.6--------------------------44/44/44
LRr 54.7/52.7/53.8--------------------------44/42/44
RRr 52.1/57.7/54.1---------------------------47/48/46
These updated measurements are updates from March 2016. These measurements are after a 3 day event at COTA (hard on brakes) and 1 day at Auto Club Speedway for a total of 490 additional track miles. My left front rotor continues to be the closest to the wear limit, particularly the first measurement. That being said, the PCCBs continue to hang in there. I have done a total of 32 track days on these rotors. They appear to have a few more in them.