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Old 07-10-2021, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
I'm not a CL owner, but for those considering it, I'd recommend trying to divide the cost among friends. It's unlikely that everyone needs the tool on the same day. If you have 2-3 friends within an hour drive of you that all have CL wheels, then I think spending $1-2k per person is more manageable.

People do this with Durametric/other scan tools.
While I do think this is an interesting idea to acquire the tool. Since taking off the wheels is such a common job or required for many jobs it may not be as sharable as the durametric/scan tools.(as I can drive my cars with codes but I cannot drive my car without the wheels) You'd have to work out a timeshare schedule. So it's not exactly apples to apples with a durametric. But for the right group of people it could work out.
Old 07-10-2021, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 65ac408
The Milwaukee impact wrench discussed above is not "a gun similar to this" and should never be used on the street variant of any GT car. Easily searchable topic if you're interested in learning why.
It's a battery powered gun that removes a CL, just like the one being discussed in the thread. Not sure why you're being so obtuse about it.

BBi uses the Milwaukee tool, and I seem to recall a Porsche video with a tech removing the wheels using the same thing
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Originally Posted by krell;[url=tel:17542567
17542567]It's a battery powered gun that removes a CL, just like the one being discussed in the thread. Not sure why you're being so obtuse about it.

BBi uses the Milwaukee tool, and I seem to recall a Porsche video with a tech removing the wheels using the same thing
Is the Milwaukee tool a cordless impact?
And they use it to break loose the nut on a street GT3/RS ? Maybe the car they worked on that you saw had Cup centerlock conversion?

In the Porsche /Manthey Ring record run video, they first loosen the centerlock with a breaker or big torque wrench, then use a second socket on a cordless drill to remove the nut to speed things up.

I have read numerous threads here regarding center locks. Some ppl remove it while wheel on ground. Now it’s ok to break it loose by cordless impact. Makes you wonder the used Porsche you buy with centerlocks and what have them been through….

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Old 07-10-2021, 11:02 PM
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New owner with center locks. Have not had a reason to remove wheels. If I had another set for track, can see this would be worthwhile at $3500ish (&#128064. Why are others finding the need to remove wheels?
Old 07-10-2021, 11:32 PM
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Great tool but just too expensive.
Old 07-11-2021, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by krell
It's a battery powered gun that removes a CL, just like the one being discussed in the thread. Not sure why you're being so obtuse about it.

BBi uses the Milwaukee tool, and I seem to recall a Porsche video with a tech removing the wheels using the same thing
Sounds like you may be conflating race car Centerlocks with street car Centerlocks. They are not the same and cannot use the same tools.
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Old 07-11-2021, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mipcar
New owner with center locks. Have not had a reason to remove wheels. If I had another set for track, can see this would be worthwhile at $3500ish (&#128064. Why are others finding the need to remove wheels?
I rotate my wheels after every track day to make tire wear a bit longer. And there are all the regular maintenance items that require wheel removal (I do my own).
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Originally Posted by mipcar
New owner with center locks. Have not had a reason to remove wheels. If I had another set for track, can see this would be worthwhile at $3500ish (&#128064. Why are others finding the need to remove wheels?
Ditto with GrantG. I do as much of my own maintenance as I can since the dealerships give you "Macan" service on your GT3RS, and you will end up with subpar service for a high performance vehicle. I change mine for brake change, spring adjustment (lowering ride height), which happens a few times a year since I track my car.
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some mentioned cup car CL with impact gun
the cup car nut has nothing to do with street cars, nothing.
if ur shop use impact gun on street CL, take you car out. they have zero idea what they are doing.
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Old 07-11-2021, 08:32 AM
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Probably been better to do a poll. If you’d buy one or not.
Old 07-11-2021, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by WP0
Ditto with GrantG. I do as much of my own maintenance as I can since the dealerships give you "Macan" service on your GT3RS, and you will end up with subpar service for a high performance vehicle. I change mine for brake change, spring adjustment (lowering ride height), which happens a few times a year since I track my car.
I understand the maintenance for sure. Oil change, intake, brake fluid, roll bar install, harness, cameras, all good to go. Staggered wheels, so no rotation on this car. Went to shop for alignment, height adjustment and balance (I don't have that tech at home). PCCB's so not sure what routine maintenance is required other than visual inspection.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have the ability to easily take off the wheels at home and this tech appears to be highly user friendly. Not sure I would commit $3500-$6000 to that need ahead of other performance items. Budget minded enthusiast here.
Old 07-11-2021, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mipcar
Staggered wheels, so no rotation on this car.
My track is almost all right turns, so you rotate left to right - makes a big difference (almost all wear on left side). Pull wheels to do spark plugs, brake service (fluid flush, pads, rotors), adjust sway bars, makes easier to remove rear bumper to have rear wheels off (needed to change air filters, serpentine belt, etc). And I am getting new tires quite often (I remove wheels myself for this and truck comes to the house to install on loose wheels).
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Old 07-11-2021, 03:29 PM
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+1 for me... for sure
Old 07-11-2021, 04:14 PM
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I think the $3-4k price point would be palatable for the average GT car owner. I’ve spent much more money on far less useful items (ie. watches lol). I could justify it at that price point over paying Porsche or any other indy shop gobbs of money to mess up a simple service my car..and send it through the wash bay (after blatantly ignoring the no wash sign hanging from the mirror).

Last time I got my car back from a service the wheel locks weren’t engaged. I had it on the track twice before I noticed (shame on me - trust, but verify). This is a common complaint from GT car owners - and Porsche service is often the biggest offender. When it comes to maintenance, if I do something myself I know it’s done right - or at least I know who to blame. When paying a premium to a dealer or even an indy shop for a brake flush, pad change, coils, etc., it doesn’t take long to justify something like this.

I love the idea - keep the price reasonable and the budget conscious track rats like myself will be all over it.
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Guys...forget the $3-4k dream, the tool alone is $4k.

Disperse the R&D cost for the bit and wheel nut across a low quantity of potential sales (<1000) and you are at $5-7k.


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