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thinkingmonkey 09-11-2020 12:10 AM

The Pegasus decal I've been seeing : what's the story?
 
So, random question, I know... but I've been seeing mostly Speedsters and some GT3's, with the red Pegasus decal placed on the right side, behind the front fender. What's the story behind it? I'd really like to know, since it actually seems to be a really nice touch and gives a nice feeling of nostalgia.

I know the obvious mobil oil ties, but was wondering if it was something more.

Todd B 09-11-2020 09:40 AM

Goes back to the Mobil Oil racing sponsorship with the 356 and early 911 long hood.

zedcat 09-11-2020 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by thinkingmonkey (Post 16898688)
So, random question, I know... but I've been seeing mostly Speedsters and some GT3's, with the red Pegasus decal placed on the right side, behind the front fender. What's the story behind it? I'd really like to know, since it actually seems to be a really nice touch and gives a nice feeling of nostalgia.

I know the obvious mobil oil ties, but was wondering if it was something more.

I don't know for certain of the earliest use of the Pegasus decal but it goes back at least to the 1953 Carrera Panamericana 550. And yes it is a marketing symbol for the old Mobil (Standard Oil of New York)

G12R 09-12-2020 08:38 PM

Some more detail below. James Dean + 356 = cool is probably part of the equation.

https://www.airbrigade.com/post/pors...e-pegasus-logo

jamesinger 09-13-2020 01:47 AM

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Some of the mobil stations in California still have giant signs with the pegasus. IDK about everywhere else.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d00a69f6ee.png
the mobil down by my entrance to the freeway where I live.
but I always associated the logo with 50s Porsche Racing.
Attachment 1341748
...and James Dean...

catdog2 09-13-2020 11:29 PM

Honestly, it looks kinda contrived on newer cars...
On a 356 maybe, but on speedster and/or GT4 Spyder... give me a break

wmond 09-14-2020 12:55 AM

Anyone know a good place to get a high quality decal?

thinkingmonkey 09-14-2020 02:14 AM


Originally Posted by catdog2 (Post 16903862)
Honestly, it looks kinda contrived on newer cars...
On a 356 maybe, but on speedster and/or GT4 Spyder... give me a break

I mean, I get it, it adds a bit of nostalgia to the car... but yeah, it's kinda why I asked the question. Its gotta have some story behind it if I'm seeing the decal on brand new Speedsters.

Daft Chief 01-25-2023 07:31 PM

https://tequipment-finder.porsche.co...2587E2002E69DD


Originally from the Greek mythology, Pegasus represents power and speed, performance and immortality like no other mythical creature. No wonder, then, that the red winged horse had cult status from the outset and can be found on the vehicles of racing legends and rally drivers as well as Porsche owners and hobby drivers.

The winged horse used to be part of the Mobiloil logo – known today as ExxonMobil after the merger with Exxon. Like every brand, the Pegasus has developed over the years and has been adapted to the zeitgeist. Porsche Tequipment now returns an original version of the Pegasus from Mobiloil as a decal.

Historically correct, the Pegasus is always affixed in the direction of travel and at an angle of -3°. For the driver side, this means: He flies from right to left. On the passenger's side, it is reversed and thus also applied in the direction of travel. The self-adhering films can also help you revive the Pegasus myth and cult of times past.

The adhesive set is available in two different sizes: The length of the diagonal from the wing tip to the furthermost front hoof is 16.5 cm or 20.5 cm.

Maverick787 01-25-2023 07:40 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3a7ac3eff.jpeg

928 GT R 01-26-2023 12:59 AM

In my collection of porcelain signs I have managed to get five of these 1950's large double sided Pegasus's and quite a few associated Mobil signs. Probably twenty in all.
I've always thought the Pegasus and Gargoyle were attractive and have been collecting these porcelain signs since I was a kid.
The round Mobiloil Gargoyle sign in the center was found at an old racetrack still attached to the wall of a collapsed building that I lifted up about five years ago.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...bb12aa4d8d.png

928 GT R 01-26-2023 07:22 AM

Here is the basic timeline of Mobils logo history. There are variations and overlaps, but this is a decent representation of the history.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2b0dddacf8.png

Maverick787 01-26-2023 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by 928 GT R (Post 18594068)
Here is the basic timeline of Mobils logo history. There are variations and overlaps, but this is a decent representation of the history.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2b0dddacf8.png

Thx for sharing, when I was a kid I loved seeing the Pegasus logos. I use to have a lot of kites and that would be my kite logos, and stickers on my bike. Not sure if kids still play with either now, 10 years old in the 70’s give me a bike and a kite I was in heaven.

911-140.6 01-26-2023 03:41 PM

Not a Pegasus but this is the extent of my livery ; )


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...462554924e.jpg

fskof 01-26-2023 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by 928 GT R (Post 18593922)
In my collection of porcelain signs I have managed to get five of these 1950's large double sided Pegasus's and quite a few associated Mobil signs. Probably twenty in all.
I've always thought the Pegasus and Gargoyle were attractive and have been collecting these porcelain signs since I was a kid.
The round Mobiloil Gargoyle sign in the center was found at an old racetrack still attached to the wall of a collapsed building that I lifted up about five years ago.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...bb12aa4d8d.png


What a great find!

technivoro.us 01-27-2023 01:52 PM

At the risk of being somewhat off topic, here's mine (on the CD)

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5b88d11da.jpeg

handdoc 01-29-2023 10:26 AM

i love neon

when i finish my project (soon!) i'll post a video

here's an authentic mobil shield i have

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a4099dbf6.jpeg

rshanholtz 01-29-2023 02:22 PM

Porsche uses this Pegasus on many of their concept car launches. They specifically used it on the launch of the 2018 Speedster Concept 70th anniversary livery Heritage Package per the below pics...this is why you see the Pegasus placed on the Heritage Livery Speedsters mostly.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...fe0f7d059b.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6160e05d4b.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2dee22155a.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...60a1d35e7b.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...21e60d8e5f.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7d793e6b08.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...220c3e5a40.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f568a1dc38.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1ab1dcd0fb.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...25b5bcf4a2.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2b44ce5777.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9a2ff9756a.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2b9220054c.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...cb558a3d70.jpg

Tier1Terrier 02-18-2023 10:49 PM

Has anyone figured out where to order a high quality pegasus decal set that isn't the $100 set that Suncoast sells? Also, does anyone know if the ones picture on the Speedsters above are 6.5" or 8"?

928 GT R 02-19-2023 05:50 AM

The "Pigasus" is priceless humor on a diesel Cayenne...

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8ca95ab69f.png

I think there are at least four Pegasus signs in this picture...https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3287cfc83a.png



TheMurse 02-20-2023 02:47 PM

I found mine here and they're a perfect alternative to the ones offered by Suncoast and Porsche Tequipment

Also available in black

TheMurse 02-20-2023 02:52 PM

@928 GT R Tell me about that pair of Seth Morrison pro model skis, I haven't seen those since my knees worked properly!

Tier1Terrier 02-20-2023 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by TheMurse (Post 18642489)
I found mine here and they're a perfect alternative to the ones offered by Suncoast and Porsche Tequipment

Also available in black


Thank you @TheMurse !!! The ones you have linked are listed at 4.5" but the ones sold by Suncoast are either 6.5" or 8" and from the looks of some of the pictures above (particularly the heritage Speedster), my guess is that the OEM decals are the 8" size. I'd be curious to see how a 4.5" pegasus decal looks.

@rshanholtz Do you have any insight on the approximate size of the decal shown on the Speedster you have pictured above?

TheMurse 02-20-2023 05:51 PM

@Tier1Terrier

Here’s the 4.5” on my 997:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f5cfa00c4.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...860dbea19.jpeg

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a3c48aaad.jpeg

928 GT R 02-20-2023 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by TheMurse (Post 18642506)
@928 GT R Tell me about that pair of Seth Morrison pro model skis, I haven't seen those since my knees worked properly!

Wow, it takes someone from within the industry to recognize those beasts. They were all mountain/extreme skis that I used for a couple of seasons. K2 gave them to me when we were filming some big air footage for K2 at Squaw. That was around 1996 or 97 when Seth had gained fame and sponsorship at K2 and those Promodellers (sp?) were the first of many skis with his name on them.

I also recall, they were some of the first skis with Piezoelectric dampers to eliminate specific frequency vibrations... Thanks for jogging the memories!

D


TheMurse 02-20-2023 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by 928 GT R (Post 18642898)
Wow, it takes someone from within the industry to recognize those beasts. They were all mountain/extreme skis that I used for a couple of seasons. K2 gave them to me when we were filming some big air footage for K2 at Squaw. That was around 1996 or 97 when Seth had gained fame and sponsorship at K2 and those Promodellers (sp?) were the first of many skis with his name on them.

I also recall, they were some of the first skis with Piezoelectric dampers to eliminate specific frequency vibrations... Thanks for jogging the memories!

D

I wasn't in the industry when K2 rolled those out, but I was a year or so later., worked in specialty outdoor all through my college years so I could a.) snag a shop pass and b.) score new gear at pro deal prices. I never had a pair of Morrisons but I demo'd the red ones in '98. I think there's a set of Xplorers in my gear closet, smack them with the heel of your hand and the LED still lights up.

cosmos 02-22-2023 01:17 AM

These are factory CXX, slightly different than what you can purchase at the Porsche parts counter. Porsche charges about $500 for the factory option.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7e9a5002f.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8974f3547.jpeg

riteoff 02-22-2023 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by technivoro.us (Post 18596330)
At the risk of being somewhat off topic, here's mine (on the CD)

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5b88d11da.jpeg


The missing piece to my Cayenne! Link please?

Plastikos 11-28-2023 02:21 PM

that's awesome

technivoro.us 12-02-2023 04:44 PM

https://www.aircooledapparel.com/Porkasus

Also, my old PA plate:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...28f8e5ac9.jpeg

Snufkin 12-03-2023 06:08 AM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e664075dc7.jpg
Pegasus decals on my daily driver - the Dakar. Fitted by Porsche from new - this is the smaller (4.5") one. Clearly a matter of opinion but I think it looks good and the colour picks up on the brakes and towing eyes.

Tier1Terrier 12-03-2023 08:50 PM

Finally got around to doing mine. Also saw a cool 356 sporting the Pegasus decals at a recent C&C.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9b6fe9d30.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b7223682d.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...fde0a5677.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4897d815f.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6a76678a4.jpeg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...cae4fb122.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2fb5ce7cf.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9a1eb633c.jpeg

Captain P 12-03-2023 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by cosmos (Post 18646182)
These are factory CXX, slightly different than what you can purchase at the Porsche parts counter. Porsche charges about $500 for the factory option.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7e9a5002f.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8974f3547.jpeg

I really wanted this one in black, but could not find one in the Porsche design. Ended up tracing and creating mine, got a circut machine to cut it out in different colors.

if it works out I’ll make a few black copies for those that want it.

cosmos 12-03-2023 09:08 PM

FYI for proper angle placement

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...fa236463b.jpeg

Tour the Ring 01-26-2024 03:34 AM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b79240cbd9.jpg
Here what I got.
Now you can debate what an oil brand sign does on a electric car.
I don't care and like the style and the contrast.
I took care on the correct inclination angle...

Tombstone4478 01-26-2024 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by 928 GT R (Post 18639941)
The "Pigasus" is priceless humor on a diesel Cayenne...

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8ca95ab69f.png

I think there are at least four Pegasus signs in this picture...https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3287cfc83a.png

those vintage K2s instantly took me back to skiing with my dad in the 80s and 90s. The best

Plastikos 06-10-2024 03:41 PM

I got on the band wagon

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...24b813d4c4.jpg


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