GT car scams
09-21-2018, 11:21 AM
#106
Three Wheelin'
^^, guys ADM is a choice and it happens across many car brands when you want to be the first kid on your block with the shinny new toy. Guess what many of them are piled up for some because some can’t really tell the difference from the last one, it will be the last best thing. It’s a car, and nothing more .......if you wait you get a deal ....you want now you pay it’s not rocket science. ADM ranges around 10%, I find it amazing 7 figure salaries or close ranting about ADM’s. Porsche didn’t rip out your check book and mke you pay ....it’s called self control. Many members have tried to sell members here cars, and most of them are tire kickers. This is not a supply problem all clear bra’d with ceramic coating ready to be loved..........
https://nationalpreownedporsche.com/...1_gt2&limit=36
https://nationalpreownedporsche.com/...1_gt2&limit=36
09-21-2018, 12:29 PM
#107
I don't understand the scam here. The only scam was with Champion. ADM isn't a scam. It's a market driven force. Unfortunately, I don't have a relationship with any Porsche dealers, and i'm not on any lists, so I've had to pay an ADM for my GT3 and GT4.
09-21-2018, 01:48 PM
#109
Originally Posted by Yippiekiaye
spot on. Last I checked no one is owed anything. We have free will o make whatever devotions we want about the cars we buy.
you don’t like adm? Buy a used older car.
you don’t like used older cars? Buy another brand.
These are first world problems. Ranting and raving will do nothing. Voting with your pocketbook will.
i tried to get a Gt2rs. Ridiculous adm. no desire to pay so I’m now shopping Mclaren 720 and Performante. Porsche dealer can go pound sand with their adm. but I don’t complain- I just go buy something else.
you don’t like adm? Buy a used older car.
you don’t like used older cars? Buy another brand.
These are first world problems. Ranting and raving will do nothing. Voting with your pocketbook will.
i tried to get a Gt2rs. Ridiculous adm. no desire to pay so I’m now shopping Mclaren 720 and Performante. Porsche dealer can go pound sand with their adm. but I don’t complain- I just go buy something else.
09-21-2018, 01:50 PM
#110
Holy f^8k this ADM talk has gotten out of control.....in the end the consumers, us, control the market....sorry but I don't feel once ounce of anger towards a dealer trying to make as much profit as possible...let's not forget where we live and the freedoms we have....this includes businesses as well.....
09-21-2018, 01:56 PM
#111
dealers behaving badly as in trying to maximize profit? What are we communists now where everyone should get the same car at the same price?
Whats wrong with you people? You dont like ADM - go buy something else. Last I checked there are dozens if not hundreds of older GT cars for sale. Not only is there no ADM, you can buy under MSRP.
Oh wait, you want the latest and greatest? You want a 2018 cause it has 4 HP more and black trim instead of silver trim?
Well, put your big boy pants on and write a check.
This is getting nuts! Porsche aint perfect but the sense of entitlement on this website is ridiculous.
I want a GT car and I refuse to pay what the market demands!!!
09-21-2018, 03:04 PM
#113
Rennlist Member
dealers behaving badly as in trying to maximize profit? What are we communists now where everyone should get the same car at the same price?
Whats wrong with you people? You dont like ADM - go buy something else. Last I checked there are dozens if not hundreds of older GT cars for sale. Not only is there no ADM, you can buy under MSRP.
Oh wait, you want the latest and greatest? You want a 2018 cause it has 4 HP more and black trim instead of silver trim?
Well, put your big boy pants on and write a check.
This is getting nuts! Porsche aint perfect but the sense of entitlement on this website is ridiculous.
I want a GT car and I refuse to pay what the market demands!!!
Whats wrong with you people? You dont like ADM - go buy something else. Last I checked there are dozens if not hundreds of older GT cars for sale. Not only is there no ADM, you can buy under MSRP.
Oh wait, you want the latest and greatest? You want a 2018 cause it has 4 HP more and black trim instead of silver trim?
Well, put your big boy pants on and write a check.
This is getting nuts! Porsche aint perfect but the sense of entitlement on this website is ridiculous.
I want a GT car and I refuse to pay what the market demands!!!
this attitude is part of the problem, many get MSRP many do not, there needs to be a clear statement from the mothership, the demand is artificially controlled by them manipulating supply
09-21-2018, 03:19 PM
#114
Life is is not equal nor fair. If you want MSRP and can’t get it, make a decision to move on or pay the added fee.
Ever try to buy a Birkin bag from Hermès? You think they create an artificial demand?
Ever buy buy a Patek? Try buying a Nautilus 5711. It’s a nothing burger of a watch that you can’t buy without a 3 year wait.
The only reason people want a GT car is cause they can’t get one. I guarantee you if Porsche floods the market with GT cars but artificially limits the production of the Carrera T, this website would be full of people complaining about the ADMs on the T.
09-21-2018, 03:19 PM
#115
There is a 100% clear statement from Porsche...it's called mSrp.....there is no supply manipulation....the GT market in the big picture is small for Porsche....If everyone is so up in arms about ADM's just buy something else....it's quite simple....
09-21-2018, 03:28 PM
#116
Rennlist Member
Why is that a problem? Those getting MSRP have likely formed a relationship somehow by buying cars or some other means.
Life is is not equal nor fair. If you want MSRP and can’t get it, make a decision to move on or pay the added fee.
Ever try to buy a Birkin bag from Hermès? You think they create an artificial demand?
Ever buy buy a Patek? Try buying a Nautilus 5711. It’s a nothing burger of a watch that you can’t buy without a 3 year wait.
The only reason people want a GT car is cause they can’t get one. I guarantee you if Porsche floods the market with GT cars but artificially limits the production of the Carrera T, this website would be full of people complaining about the ADMs on the T.
doubtful... the issue is the black market circumstances this has created with a wild west of brokers and flippers, there are people who want to hide this information
09-21-2018, 03:29 PM
#117
09-21-2018, 03:30 PM
#118
Burning Brakes
dealers behaving badly as in trying to maximize profit? What are we communists now where everyone should get the same car at the same price?
Whats wrong with you people? You dont like ADM - go buy something else. Last I checked there are dozens if not hundreds of older GT cars for sale. Not only is there no ADM, you can buy under MSRP.
Oh wait, you want the latest and greatest? You want a 2018 cause it has 4 HP more and black trim instead of silver trim?
Well, put your big boy pants on and write a check.
This is getting nuts! Porsche aint perfect but the sense of entitlement on this website is ridiculous.
I want a GT car and I refuse to pay what the market demands!!!
Whats wrong with you people? You dont like ADM - go buy something else. Last I checked there are dozens if not hundreds of older GT cars for sale. Not only is there no ADM, you can buy under MSRP.
Oh wait, you want the latest and greatest? You want a 2018 cause it has 4 HP more and black trim instead of silver trim?
Well, put your big boy pants on and write a check.
This is getting nuts! Porsche aint perfect but the sense of entitlement on this website is ridiculous.
I want a GT car and I refuse to pay what the market demands!!!
09-21-2018, 03:32 PM
#119
