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kinglenario 09-12-2018 07:15 PM

2019 GT3RS or GT3 Touring?
 
Hey guys, I'm new to this section of the forum. I have an allocation (I think) from Champion and have a GT3RS on order scheduled for January delivery. I'm having some second thoughts about the GT3RS and am possibly thinking about searching for a GT3 Touring instead. I definitely like how the Touring is more subtle and the manual transmission. I feel like it will be a better street car to enjoy. I will most likely not be tracking either car, I'd get something more of a beater for that. Would love to get peoples input who have spent a good amount of time in both.

Obviously the money is different and the GT3RS is maybe more rare? But this really isn't about the money, it's about the enjoyment factor of driving on the street and not looking like a douche. :)

Ascend 09-12-2018 07:19 PM

First of all, are you sure you got an allocation? There is a scam going at the dealership you are referring to.

promocop 09-12-2018 07:20 PM

hahahahahahahha

robmypro 09-12-2018 07:36 PM

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LexVan 09-12-2018 07:56 PM

I hope your sales Guy is not Shiraaz.

Chris88 09-12-2018 08:47 PM

Based on what you're looking for, the Touring sounds like the right car. I have almost 7,000 miles on mine and absolutely love it. You really can't push the car 10/10's on the street (unless you want to go to jail), so if you're not going to track it, go subtle. The Touring get's some attention, but not too much.

johnny2five 09-12-2018 08:59 PM

I'll trade you my Touring for your RS :)

abiazis 09-12-2018 09:08 PM

You might test drive a Turbo S....you sound a lot like I did a few months ago and I switched from GT3 to TTS for some of the reasons you state..

0to60 09-12-2018 09:16 PM

You want attention get the RS
You want stealth get the touring
Let’s face it, if tracked few will be able to extract 100% out of either of these cars

Izzone 09-12-2018 09:28 PM

Kind of funny...I’m in the same boat

leaning towards a RS...I bought a regular gt3 in 2007...then regretted it until Trakcar convinced me to buy Moody’s GT3RS

i still own the RS to this day, will never sell it

on the other hand a touring is a good daily....for a GT3.

RS brings attention...but has enough difference the soul is more raw

agsin I have trakcar in my ear telling me to buy RS...I’ll probably follow suit so someone can re-open DE Cup southeast

ill daily my defender I guess lol

Raucky 09-12-2018 09:36 PM

Based on your description, touring is the correct car for you. Touring cars should hold their value better than a tts imho, if that even matters to you.

kinglenario 09-12-2018 10:02 PM

First of all, yes I do think I have my allocation as he wasn't my salesman and my deposit went to a different account.

As much as I respect the TTS it's not the car for me. It's really between a GT3RS and a GT3 Touring for me. The funny thing is there is no more allocation for the GT3 at Champion so I can't switch my RS to a GT3 Touring. I was thinking if one popped up there (they have a red one there now but red kind of defeats the purpose of the Touring to me) I think they would let me change cars.

kinglenario 09-12-2018 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by Ascend (Post 15285661)
First of all, are you sure you got an allocation? There is a scam going at the dealership you are referring to.

Yes I 'think' I'm good.

kinglenario 09-12-2018 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by Chris88 (Post 15285860)
Based on what you're looking for, the Touring sounds like the right car. I have almost 7,000 miles on mine and absolutely love it. You really can't push the car 10/10's on the street (unless you want to go to jail), so if you're not going to track it, go subtle. The Touring get's some attention, but not too much.

Man your GT3T is beautiful

evilfij 09-12-2018 10:13 PM

My dealer offered me a GT3RS as for some reason they thought that was my eventual goal, I declined as my use is 100% street and I like three pedals and I would prefer not to stand out (if I got a GT3RS or GT2RS it would be in black and the wing would be a shelf in my house, not on the car).

its all about what YOU want. While I am sure the cars feel similar, they look very different and the whole PDK v. 6MT.

kinglenario 09-12-2018 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by evilfij (Post 15286051)
My dealer offered me a GT3RS as for some reason they thought that was my eventual goal, I declined as my use is 100% street and I like three pedals and I would prefer not to stand out (if I got a GT3RS or GT2RS it would be in black and the wing would be a shelf in my house, not on the car).

its all about what YOU want. While I am sure the cars feel similar, they look very different and the whole PDK v. 6MT.

Thanks for your input. Honestly the wing is just SO big lol. I'm more of a car guy which is why I want a P car in the first place and not a Lambo, but the wing makes it slightly Lambo look at me vibe.

Honestly, I do like the PDK. I like manual cars too but these things are almost too revy for a manual. I'm sure I'd get used to it :). I just don't like having to downshift 3 gears to hit some power on the highway.

Ascend 09-12-2018 10:41 PM

GL with your search. There are few good tourings on the market.

kinglenario 09-13-2018 10:49 AM

I’d love to drive both but that’s just not an option unfortunately. I’ve seen a few GT3 touring for sale but imagine how hard or impossible to get my deposit back from Champion! Lol

Yippiekiaye 09-13-2018 04:30 PM

Are you getting your RS at MSRP? If so, I have a Touring for sale. Sell it to you and will buy your RS.

im serious. Pm me if you want to discuss further.

kinglenario 09-13-2018 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Yippiekiaye (Post 15287837)
Are you getting your RS at MSRP? If so, I have a Touring for sale. Sell it to you and will buy your RS.

im serious. Pm me if you want to discuss further.

I did not get it at MSRP but I did get a pretty good deal as far as ADM goes. There are no more GT3 allocations at Champion this year so I can't change my order. I was told this is the last .2 3rs allocation but I find that hard to believe.

ajag 09-13-2018 07:12 PM

I had a winged 991.2 GT3 manual for 2400 miles and am now at 600 miles on the .2 3RS.

For 100% road use, the GT3 hands down, largely because of the more compliant suspension. All the other differences are secondary, IMHO, when it comes to DD the car. I could easily DD my manual GT3 but the RS suspension beats me up a bit for drives on less than perfect roads.

audiophilitis 09-13-2018 07:56 PM

I’ll probably get flamed for suggesting this but you can always remove the wing and uprights of the RS if you’re just puttering around town for that subdued look...but I think color selection is just as important if you want to draw less attention.

Waxer 09-13-2018 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by kinglenario (Post 15287927)
I did not get it at MSRP but I did get a pretty good deal as far as ADM goes. There are no more GT3 allocations at Champion this year so I can't change my order. I was told this is the last .2 3rs allocation but I find that hard to believe.

My dealer, one of the top 20 in the US got 5 allocations for 2018. Manager told me no word if more are coming for 2019.

PAG is ramping up full steam on the 992. Any further RS production will only be throughout 2nd Q 2019

FORENN 09-13-2018 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by kinglenario (Post 15285652)
I have an allocation (I think) from Champion

This has to be the quote of the week.

kinglenario 09-14-2018 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by ajag (Post 15288151)
I had a winged 991.2 GT3 manual for 2400 miles and am now at 600 miles on the .2 3RS.

For 100% road use, the GT3 hands down, largely because of the more compliant suspension. All the other differences are secondary, IMHO, when it comes to DD the car. I could easily DD my manual GT3 but the RS suspension beats me up a bit for drives on less than perfect roads.

thanks for your input. That makes sense. I have an x5m dd so if I want comfy I’ll drive that.

kinglenario 09-14-2018 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by audiophilitis (Post 15288244)
I’ll probably get flamed for suggesting this but you can always remove the wing and uprights of the RS if you’re just puttering around town for that subdued look...but I think color selection is just as important if you want to draw less attention.

yeah Ihought about doing that. I ordered chalk with black wheels.

KOTB 09-14-2018 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by audiophilitis (Post 15288244)
I’ll probably get flamed for suggesting this but you can always remove the wing and uprights of the RS if you’re just puttering around town for that subdued look...but I think color selection is just as important if you want to draw less attention.

Does anyone have an idea on how easy / difficult it is to remove the rear spoiler on the RS?

17bhub 09-14-2018 01:44 AM

RS for sure over touring!

A418t81 09-14-2018 01:47 AM

Can’t go wrong with either. I turned down two allocations for an RS from my local dealership as I wanted the 6MT with the 9k rpm motor. YMMV.

17bhub 09-14-2018 01:47 AM


Originally Posted by KOTB (Post 15288927)
Does anyone have an idea on how easy / difficult it is to remove the rear spoiler on the RS?

very easy! As I recall three torx heads per side. I believe somebody makes a triangular cover plate you can put on where the upright mounts to the deck lid to finish the ends. The ends are not finished very nicely under the up rights. You will want some help so you don’t drop it.

destaccado 09-14-2018 08:05 AM

I wouldn't trade my Touring for a 3RS but only because the manual transmission was important to me. If the 3RS offered the manual it wouldn't require a second thought and I'd probably have one already.

Mr.Brick 09-14-2018 08:38 AM

I say Touring for your needs...also because the .2RS is much more rigid and ball jointed than .1 ... so not exactly what you’d want from a backroads carver.


So did you have recent new allocations for the RS in the US? When did you put down your deposit if I can ask?

Ascend 09-14-2018 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by destaccado (Post 15289226)
I wouldn't trade my Touring for a 3RS but only because the manual transmission was important to me. If the 3RS offered the manual it wouldn't require a second thought and I'd probably have one already.

This is why 997 RS 4.0 commands so much premium.

audiophilitis 09-14-2018 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by 17bhub (Post 15288952)


very easy! As I recall three torx heads per side. I believe somebody makes a triangular cover plate you can put on where the upright mounts to the deck lid to finish the ends. The ends are not finished very nicely under the up rights. You will want some help so you don’t drop it.

would you happen to know source for those cover plates? Thx

kinglenario 09-14-2018 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Mr.Brick (Post 15289297)
I say Touring for your needs...also because the .2RS is much more rigid and ball jointed than .1 ... so not exactly what you’d want from a backroads carver.


So did you have recent new allocations for the RS in the US? When did you put down your deposit if I can ask?

I was told it was the last RS allocation at champion. Placed order just before Labor Day.

kinglenario 09-14-2018 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by A418t81 (Post 15288950)
Can’t go wrong with either. I turned down two allocations for an RS from my local dealership as I wanted the 6MT with the 9k rpm motor. YMMV.

the .2 RS is 9k rpm as well. As much as I like a manual, and I do, for me street driving it is a lot easier to acess the power band easily with pdk. I do understand the attraction to the manual though which is why I’m on the fence.

Unfortunately since Champion has no gt3 allocation left I’m pretty locked in to th RS. There are plenty GT3s for sale but not many touring.

kinglenario 09-14-2018 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by audiophilitis (Post 15289532)


would you happen to know source for those cover plates? Thx

I’d be interested in those as well.

Buteo 09-14-2018 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by kinglenario (Post 15289647)


I was told it was the last RS allocation at champion. Placed order just before Labor Day.

By who? Hopefully not this guy....

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timei...s%3fsource=dam

kinglenario 09-14-2018 02:17 PM

Haha no it was not him. I have a real order.

strettyend 09-14-2018 05:08 PM

The real GT3 with a wing


:D

Izzone 09-14-2018 09:24 PM

I can’t decide

getting a touring locked in for November delivery

got a RS spot with euro delivery

I might buy both

dfoster 09-14-2018 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by kinglenario (Post 15285652)
Hey guys, I'm new to this section of the forum. I have an allocation (I think) from Champion and have a GT3RS on order scheduled for January delivery. I'm having some second thoughts about the GT3RS and am possibly thinking about searching for a GT3 Touring instead. I definitely like how the Touring is more subtle and the manual transmission. I feel like it will be a better street car to enjoy. I will most likely not be tracking either car, I'd get something more of a beater for that. Would love to get peoples input who have spent a good amount of time in both.

Obviously the money is different and the GT3RS is maybe more rare? But this really isn't about the money, it's about the enjoyment factor of driving on the street and not looking like a douche. :)

lol. I hope for your sake you have an allocation. I thought I had one too.


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