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^^ What do you know about driving up a hill?
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
(Post 15246769)
^^ What do you know about driving up a hill?
;-) :thumbup: |
Originally Posted by AlecG
(Post 15246735)
Wasn't bragging as I'm sure there are many folks on this forum with multiple homes that put my home "to shame."
I was just trying to be as obnoxious as possible to respond to the fact that there are people that own Porsche GT cars and actually think these cars can beat a frieken Cup Car. Ridiculous thought process at best. No hypercar (P1, LaFerrari, Porsche 918) would even come close to Cup Car. I imagine The Senna might have the best chance out of any street car. If you truly believe a Porsche GT car has a shot at beating a Cup Car (both driven at 10/10's) you should be required to immediately sell your GT car and be forced to drive a Prius for eternity. Having said that, this test does have "merritt" and certainly has entertainment value. It will be interesting to see exactly how much time and exactly where the GT2 gives up time to the Cup. A "cup car" isn't automatically faster than every street car (GT2 RS can beat the 996 cup). It comes down to grip and power/weight. The GT2 RS wins on power/weight and loses on grip, if the 991 cup has the slicks it's designed for and the GT2 RS has regular Cup 2 or Cup 2R. On equal tires, the GT2 RS might win. Does anyone have cup car lap times at the Nürburgring? |
Originally Posted by Whoopsy
(Post 15246776)
Florida is a very hilly state! :rockon:
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
(Post 15246776)
Florida is a very hillbilly state! :rockon:
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Are you going to be optimizing the alignment for the track/driver? Or straight out the box? Referring to the GT2RS. My guess is about a 3-4sec difference |
Originally Posted by AlecG
(Post 15246735)
Wasn't bragging as I'm sure there are many folks on this forum with multiple homes that put my home "to shame."
I was just trying to be as obnoxious as possible to respond to the fact that there are people that own Porsche GT cars and actually think these cars can beat a frieken Cup Car. Ridiculous thought process at best. No hypercar (P1, LaFerrari, Porsche 918) would even come close to Cup Car. I imagine The Senna might have the best chance out of any street car. If you truly believe a Porsche GT car has a shot at beating a Cup Car (both driven at 10/10's) you should be required to immediately sell your GT car and be forced to drive a Prius for eternity. Having said that, this test does have "merritt" and certainly has entertainment value. It will be interesting to see exactly how much time and exactly where the GT2 gives up time to the Cup. People like you are what is wrong with forums like this. How many of the above mentioned cars do you have track experience in? If the answer is one or less, perhaps you should refrain from your comments. I have plenty of experienced drivers telling me that they are not sure which car will be faster and by how much, and the last thing this forum needs is discussions about your houses and opinions. This event is solely for entertainment purposes, and if all you are here to do is talk nonsense, you would be doing us all a favor by keeping your unwanted opinions to yourself. |
If you truly believe a Porsche GT car has a shot at beating a Cup Car (both driven at 10/10's) you should be required to immediately sell your GT car and be forced to drive a Prius for eternity. Moderators please remove. |
Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
(Post 15247139)
Suggesting a Prius is offensive and insulting.
Moderators please remove. |
Originally Posted by Manifold
(Post 15246782)
A "cup car" isn't automatically faster than every street car (GT2 RS can beat the 996 cup). It comes down to grip and power/weight. The GT2 RS wins on power/weight and loses on grip, if the 991 cup has the slicks it's designed for and the GT2 RS has regular Cup 2 or Cup 2R. On equal tires, the GT2 RS might win.
Does anyone have cup car lap times at the Nürburgring? I think a Cup car will do about 6:40-50 at the ring there or thereabouts. That's extrapolating from VLN Cup2 class races so I'm guesstimating which is why there's such a big spread in times as VLN races are around the combined GP and north loop. That brings it in line with what the 2rs did admittedly but the nurburgring is a bit of an unusual track I think it's fair to say and the comparison of times the cars are doing around Spa-Francorchamps is probably the better comparison. |
Originally Posted by isv
(Post 15247207)
But the whole point is that they aren't on equal tyres. If the 2rs was on slicks rather than road tyres there would be considerable doubt about the result but that's not going to be the case here.
I think a Cup car will do about 6:40-50 at the ring there or thereabouts. That's extrapolating from VLN Cup2 class races so I'm guesstimating which is why there's such a big spread in times as VLN races are around the combined GP and north loop. That brings it in line with what the 2rs did admittedly but the nurburgring is a bit of an unusual track I think it's fair to say and the comparison of times the cars are doing around Spa-Francorchamps is probably the better comparison. |
Originally Posted by Manifold
(Post 15247204)
In fairness, I got a cab ride in a Prius a couple years ago, and I was kinda impressed with the roominess and performance. :)
dont do it again, your family needs you. just do like me, cancel the ride and re request. Safety first. No left lane Prius, please. |
There are street cars that can do a Single lap as fast as a cup given equal tires. But the purpose of a cup is obviusly not to do single laps. Put some slicks on a 918 and tell me that it doesn't do 1:26's at Laguna, which is what the cups do there now. Or the ZR1 at VIR did 1:51 at VIR and 1:26 at Road Atlanta on MPSC2. Those times match right up with a the imsa cup times. No one really expects the 2RS to win on lesser tires, but I might be inclined to think it could on slicks..... Er..... If it can use slicks.
Ideally, cars would be on similar tires to give a more accurate comparison of the cars speed themselves. That would give us another scenario faces at DE's around the world. However in this case, it's just a gauge of how far street cars on street tires have come to race car lap times. |
Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
(Post 15247139)
Suggesting a Prius is offensive and insulting. If the Prius is fitted with the new Cup 2 R's, it might be pretty close to non-offensive. |
Sorry, we rarely disagree but the only good Prius is a totaled Prius.
https://m.facebook.com/LeftLanePrius/ |
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