Will it be easier to obtain a GT2RS than a GT3 Manual?
#1
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Will it be easier to obtain a GT2RS than a GT3 Manual?
This is, of course, assuming one has the extra thousand Benjamins laying around I shot an email yesterday to my friendly neighborhood sales guy. He said he thought he could get me at least on the list for the next round of GT3 allocations in October, but that the GT2 would be gone-only obtainable by 918 customers. Do you guys think this is correct or will P build what the market demands?
Jim
Jim
#2
Porsche supposedly said the GT2 wasn't going to be limited, and at that price, I can't see anybody wanting one not getting it. Porsche also supposedly said it was reversing its strategy of limiting GT cars and losing customers to other brands (plus cars not being used, to retain value), so who knows. Therefore, I'd say both will be available at MSRP if you're willing to wait for your allocation. Otherwise, you'd have to pay a premium to 'jump' the list, or the other typical scheme of getting a 'flipped' used one with hardly any miles above MSRP. We'll find out soon enough.
#3
I was also wondering how many people who were previously wanting a gt3 or gt3rs would instead opt for the gt2rs if they could get one. Part of this wishful thinking is a bit selfish I admit so that mere mortals such as myself could get a gt3 allocation!
Lets hope the shifting of philosophy to offer a less limited supply of gt cars comes to fruition. I guess we may all benefit from the recent surge of healthy competition between brands (ie. McLaren) for our patronage.
Lets hope the shifting of philosophy to offer a less limited supply of gt cars comes to fruition. I guess we may all benefit from the recent surge of healthy competition between brands (ie. McLaren) for our patronage.
#5
Race Director
I was also wondering how many people who were previously wanting a gt3 or gt3rs would instead opt for the gt2rs if they could get one. Part of this wishful thinking is a bit selfish I admit so that mere mortals such as myself could get a gt3 allocation!
Lets hope the shifting of philosophy to offer a less limited supply of gt cars comes to fruition. I guess we may all benefit from the recent surge of healthy competition between brands (ie. McLaren) for our patronage.
Lets hope the shifting of philosophy to offer a less limited supply of gt cars comes to fruition. I guess we may all benefit from the recent surge of healthy competition between brands (ie. McLaren) for our patronage.
#6
The limit will be production capacity I suspect on both cars.
Porsche will undoubtedly allow for the fact the gt3 has a much lower price point, giving it more demand than the GT2 and therefore will allocate more of their production capacity to GT3s. I don't think anyone in the USA, without a long dealer history, will be able to walk into a dealer and get a GT2 at MSRP. I could be wrong but it's my $.02
Here in the U.K. The GT2 is priced at almost exactly the average asking price of a marked up 991.1 3 RS. I doubt this was a mistake as Porsche surely study these things very closely.
I personally believe that when reviews of the GT2 RS come out, peoples appetite will increase.
In person the GT2 looks the absolute business. Whilst I would love a manual GT3, the best way I can summarise them side by side is the GT3 looks like Mayweather and the GT2 is Mike Tyson in his prime.
Porsche will undoubtedly allow for the fact the gt3 has a much lower price point, giving it more demand than the GT2 and therefore will allocate more of their production capacity to GT3s. I don't think anyone in the USA, without a long dealer history, will be able to walk into a dealer and get a GT2 at MSRP. I could be wrong but it's my $.02
Here in the U.K. The GT2 is priced at almost exactly the average asking price of a marked up 991.1 3 RS. I doubt this was a mistake as Porsche surely study these things very closely.
I personally believe that when reviews of the GT2 RS come out, peoples appetite will increase.
In person the GT2 looks the absolute business. Whilst I would love a manual GT3, the best way I can summarise them side by side is the GT3 looks like Mayweather and the GT2 is Mike Tyson in his prime.
#7
I talked to my dealer yesterday, and he said they aren't making a list because it's LE and only available to 918 buyers. He talked to me like I was retarded for even asking. He also tried to explain to me why the $70K over MSRP 3RS on the sales floor was an easy sell. It had a f'n RUBBER dash! I left incredibly unimpressed. Porsche is very good at what they do, but the market gets more competitive every day, and they certainly aren't untouchable.
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#8
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If the GT2 is not artificially limited in production numbers, and assuming the GT3 and GT2 RS can be produced in equal numbers weekly, then there has to be more buyers who can afford a $150k car than a $300k car. More buyers buying a car that is produced in similar quantities would then mean the supply and demand equation will skew towards the demand higher than supply for the GT3 compared to the GT2RS. Thus one would conclude that the GT3 will be harder to get, assuming they both hit the market at the same time, which they won't, but I will still say that it will be much harder to get a GT3 in the first 12 months than it is to get a GT2RS in the first 12 months. Getting the GT3 in manual would then be even harder.
#9
If the GT2 is not artificially limited in production numbers, and assuming the GT3 and GT2 RS can be produced in equal numbers weekly, then there has to be more buyers who can afford a $150k car than a $300k car. More buyers buying a car that is produced in similar quantities would then mean the supply and demand equation will skew towards the demand higher than supply for the GT3 compared to the GT2RS. Thus one would conclude that the GT3 will be harder to get, assuming they both hit the market at the same time, which they won't, but I will still say that it will be much harder to get a GT3 in the first 12 months than it is to get a GT2RS in the first 12 months. Getting the GT3 in manual would then be even harder.
#10
Race Director
**** dealers, and their stale BS. It's just the same sales 101 photocopier sales scarcity principle tactic. Watch them hold the bag on endless 3RS's. I have nothing else to say on the matter, more wine pls, lots more. Also tulips. Grazie
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#11
Burning Brakes
I had heard the other week that the list for GT3 was double the expected allocations and the it was triple for the the GT2, so on the basis perhaps not ?
GT2 looks amazing but too much car for me, both on track and it would be waste just poking around the streets for coffee shows..
GT2 looks amazing but too much car for me, both on track and it would be waste just poking around the streets for coffee shows..
#12
I spoke to my always knowledgeable salesman yesterday. He said Porsche is expected to cap GT2RS production at 500-600 units. With 918 people who bought 918's having a right of first refusal (less the "flippers" who have been cut off) he doesn't see any of the cars hitting the open market until they've been through a 918 owner. And we know what that will do to availability and price...
I think the GT2RS will hit the point of being "collectors only."
DMoore
'15 GT3
'18 Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo (on order)
I think the GT2RS will hit the point of being "collectors only."
DMoore
'15 GT3
'18 Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo (on order)
#13
I spoke to my always knowledgeable salesman yesterday. He said Porsche is expected to cap GT2RS production at 500-600 units. With 918 people who bought 918's having a right of first refusal (less the "flippers" who have been cut off) he doesn't see any of the cars hitting the open market until they've been through a 918 owner. And we know what that will do to availability and price...
I think the GT2RS will hit the point of being "collectors only."
DMoore
'15 GT3
'18 Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo (on order)
I think the GT2RS will hit the point of being "collectors only."
DMoore
'15 GT3
'18 Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo (on order)
#14
I really doubt they'll do the same mistake with the R, especially after Porsche b*tched so much about it. We'll find out soon enough. I wouldn't trust dealers though, since they obviously want the same thing for their benefit.
#15
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I spoke to my always knowledgeable salesman yesterday. He said Porsche is expected to cap GT2RS production at 500-600 units. With 918 people who bought 918's having a right of first refusal (less the "flippers" who have been cut off) he doesn't see any of the cars hitting the open market until they've been through a 918 owner. And we know what that will do to availability and price...
I think the GT2RS will hit the point of being "collectors only."
DMoore
'15 GT3
'18 Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo (on order)
I think the GT2RS will hit the point of being "collectors only."
DMoore
'15 GT3
'18 Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo (on order)
Jim