View Poll Results: How many days per year do you track your 991 GT3 or RS?
0
23
16.31%
1 to 5
35
24.82%
6 to 10
33
23.40%
11 to 15
17
12.06%
16 to 20
19
13.48%
21 to 30
10
7.09%
31 to 40
2
1.42%
41 to 50
1
0.71%
Over 50
1
0.71%
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How Much Do You Track Your 991 GT3 or RS?
06-14-2017, 05:52 PM
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06-15-2017, 12:24 AM
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I count days as I don't do many DE's anymore. I am a member at Spring Mountain and usually do 1 or 2 days there a couple of times a year. Thermal is really close to home (SD to Thermal in about 2 hours). That's usually good for 2-3 more days. I look forward to joining the Rennlist crew at BW one of these days. Wish I had more time!
06-15-2017, 01:35 AM
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I count days as I don't do many DE's anymore. I am a member at Spring Mountain and usually do 1 or 2 days there a couple of times a year. Thermal is really close to home (SD to Thermal in about 2 hours). That's usually good for 2-3 more days. I look forward to joining the Rennlist crew at BW one of these days. Wish I had more time!
06-15-2017, 09:38 AM
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I race, so I don't track my street cars.
0 Track Days
16 Race days so far this year.
30+ Race days last year including the Run Offs.
0 Track Days
16 Race days so far this year.
30+ Race days last year including the Run Offs.
06-15-2017, 09:49 AM
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Interesting poll responses, particularly the slightly bimodal distribution with a little dip in it.
For those of you who don't track the car much (or at all), why not? Don't track much generally? Desire to preserve the car or its market value? Cost of going to the track? Prefer to track a faster, safer, cheaper, and/or track-only car?
For those of you who track the car a lot, are you happy with it as a track car? Do you expect to continue tracking it a lot in the coming years?
Though I haven't gotten to the track as much as I wanted lately, I'm generally in the category of tracking it a lot, and that was my intention in buying it. I don't know of any other car which meets these criteria:
- Reliably handles lots of track days, driven hard, without needing mods beyond track pads and fluid.
- Comfortable for driving to and from the track. I've tried trailering, and prefer not to deal with the hassle if I can avoid it.
- Without needing to change tires, fast enough to hang with most cars in the top run group, and sometimes the fastest car in that group. Though many have tweaked the setup, the car appears to deliver pretty much its full performance without any need to change the factory setup.
- Fun to drive on track. Some crave manual, but I prefer PDK on track (in manual mode, I gave auto another try recently and didn't like it). But recently tracking a track-prepped S2000 reminded me that there are much cheaper ways to have lots of fun on track (albeit slower).
- Reasonably safe on track (I have a roll bar and harnesses), though I do sometimes wonder if it's a good decision to be going so fast without full race car safety systems.
- Tolerable cost to track it, though it's on the expensive side (particularly tires).
For those of you who don't track the car much (or at all), why not? Don't track much generally? Desire to preserve the car or its market value? Cost of going to the track? Prefer to track a faster, safer, cheaper, and/or track-only car?
For those of you who track the car a lot, are you happy with it as a track car? Do you expect to continue tracking it a lot in the coming years?
Though I haven't gotten to the track as much as I wanted lately, I'm generally in the category of tracking it a lot, and that was my intention in buying it. I don't know of any other car which meets these criteria:
- Reliably handles lots of track days, driven hard, without needing mods beyond track pads and fluid.
- Comfortable for driving to and from the track. I've tried trailering, and prefer not to deal with the hassle if I can avoid it.
- Without needing to change tires, fast enough to hang with most cars in the top run group, and sometimes the fastest car in that group. Though many have tweaked the setup, the car appears to deliver pretty much its full performance without any need to change the factory setup.
- Fun to drive on track. Some crave manual, but I prefer PDK on track (in manual mode, I gave auto another try recently and didn't like it). But recently tracking a track-prepped S2000 reminded me that there are much cheaper ways to have lots of fun on track (albeit slower).
- Reasonably safe on track (I have a roll bar and harnesses), though I do sometimes wonder if it's a good decision to be going so fast without full race car safety systems.
- Tolerable cost to track it, though it's on the expensive side (particularly tires).
06-15-2017, 10:58 AM
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^ agreed with Manifold. I bought the car for the track and the ability to drive it there and back comfortably with the wife and luggage. I trailered for a few years and don't miss it. The drive to Sebring is about 2 hours and the wife always comes. It works great for a weekend. Even with a harness cage, there is enough room for soft luggage and track essentials. The only draw back is more frequent tire replacement and higher mileage on the car. Plus I enjoy the time behind the wheel versus our tow vehicle. Heading to VIR and WGI in few weeks, so I will trailer there and back, but normally I drive the GT3.
I enjoy the car's balance of power, handling and ability to keep up with most of the track dedicated cars. My track buddies trailer and have dedicated 993/996 race cars which seem to have a lower running cost for tires and brakes plus less invested cost. They try to persuade me to sell the GT3 but I prefer the freedom of not trailering. It is a great dual purpose car.
I enjoy the car's balance of power, handling and ability to keep up with most of the track dedicated cars. My track buddies trailer and have dedicated 993/996 race cars which seem to have a lower running cost for tires and brakes plus less invested cost. They try to persuade me to sell the GT3 but I prefer the freedom of not trailering. It is a great dual purpose car.
06-15-2017, 11:23 AM
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Interesting poll responses, particularly the slightly bimodal distribution with a little dip in it.
For those of you who don't track the car much (or at all), why not? Don't track much generally? Desire to preserve the car or its market value? Cost of going to the track? Prefer to track a faster, safer, cheaper, and/or track-only car?
For those of you who track the car a lot, are you happy with it as a track car? Do you expect to continue tracking it a lot in the coming years?
Though I haven't gotten to the track as much as I wanted lately, I'm generally in the category of tracking it a lot, and that was my intention in buying it. I don't know of any other car which meets these criteria:
- Reliably handles lots of track days, driven hard, without needing mods beyond track pads and fluid.
- Comfortable for driving to and from the track. I've tried trailering, and prefer not to deal with the hassle if I can avoid it.
- Without needing to change tires, fast enough to hang with most cars in the top run group, and sometimes the fastest car in that group. Though many have tweaked the setup, the car appears to deliver pretty much its full performance without any need to change the factory setup.
- Fun to drive on track. Some crave manual, but I prefer PDK on track (in manual mode, I gave auto another try recently and didn't like it). But recently tracking a track-prepped S2000 reminded me that there are much cheaper ways to have lots of fun on track (albeit slower).
- Reasonably safe on track (I have a roll bar and harnesses), though I do sometimes wonder if it's a good decision to be going so fast without full race car safety systems.
- Tolerable cost to track it, though it's on the expensive side (particularly tires).
For those of you who don't track the car much (or at all), why not? Don't track much generally? Desire to preserve the car or its market value? Cost of going to the track? Prefer to track a faster, safer, cheaper, and/or track-only car?
For those of you who track the car a lot, are you happy with it as a track car? Do you expect to continue tracking it a lot in the coming years?
Though I haven't gotten to the track as much as I wanted lately, I'm generally in the category of tracking it a lot, and that was my intention in buying it. I don't know of any other car which meets these criteria:
- Reliably handles lots of track days, driven hard, without needing mods beyond track pads and fluid.
- Comfortable for driving to and from the track. I've tried trailering, and prefer not to deal with the hassle if I can avoid it.
- Without needing to change tires, fast enough to hang with most cars in the top run group, and sometimes the fastest car in that group. Though many have tweaked the setup, the car appears to deliver pretty much its full performance without any need to change the factory setup.
- Fun to drive on track. Some crave manual, but I prefer PDK on track (in manual mode, I gave auto another try recently and didn't like it). But recently tracking a track-prepped S2000 reminded me that there are much cheaper ways to have lots of fun on track (albeit slower).
- Reasonably safe on track (I have a roll bar and harnesses), though I do sometimes wonder if it's a good decision to be going so fast without full race car safety systems.
- Tolerable cost to track it, though it's on the expensive side (particularly tires).
I like having a track ready car as it gives me a backup option for a session or 2 if something is broken. Last time my ABS system went after 3 sessions, but I had my 570S at the track so decided against tracking it and being stuck there...
06-15-2017, 11:46 AM
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^ agreed with Manifold. I bought the car for the track and the ability to drive it there and back comfortably with the wife and luggage. I trailered for a few years and don't miss it. The drive to Sebring is about 2 hours and the wife always comes. It works great for a weekend. Even with a harness cage, there is enough room for soft luggage and track essentials. The only draw back is more frequent tire replacement and higher mileage on the car. Plus I enjoy the time behind the wheel versus our tow vehicle. Heading to VIR and WGI in few weeks, so I will trailer there and back, but normally I drive the GT3.
I enjoy the car's balance of power, handling and ability to keep up with most of the track dedicated cars. My track buddies trailer and have dedicated 993/996 race cars which seem to have a lower running cost for tires and brakes plus less invested cost. They try to persuade me to sell the GT3 but I prefer the freedom of not trailering. It is a great dual purpose car.
I enjoy the car's balance of power, handling and ability to keep up with most of the track dedicated cars. My track buddies trailer and have dedicated 993/996 race cars which seem to have a lower running cost for tires and brakes plus less invested cost. They try to persuade me to sell the GT3 but I prefer the freedom of not trailering. It is a great dual purpose car.
06-15-2017, 11:53 AM
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I saw this on FB last night:
It's like the guys who show up at the gym and make excuses about how they 'just want to tone' and not get big. LOL
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It's like the guys who show up at the gym and make excuses about how they 'just want to tone' and not get big. LOL
06-15-2017, 01:13 PM
#28
I will track and can't wait!
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06-15-2017, 01:50 PM
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^ mass27, no disagreement with any of the above, and no intention on my part to judge anyone's decisions.
A question though: if someone's making $200K/year, is it a good value to spend $150K on a car which will surely depreciate, even if not driven? FWIW, on the road, I enjoy my 997 more than the GT3, and the 997 can be bought used for under $50K and then it won't depreciate much after that.
A question though: if someone's making $200K/year, is it a good value to spend $150K on a car which will surely depreciate, even if not driven? FWIW, on the road, I enjoy my 997 more than the GT3, and the 997 can be bought used for under $50K and then it won't depreciate much after that.
06-15-2017, 02:16 PM
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Job. Lol.
PRIORITIES.
I aspire to be like mooty.
PRIORITIES.
I aspire to be like mooty.