mclarenmaniac

Hi,
I am supposed to lock my build in next 30 days. Looks like PAG will update the Configurator to add more options by end of this year.
I know this has happened in case of .1 GT3 RS.
Did this happen with .1 GT3 as well ?

Dealer is ready to push my allocation # down the list if I want to wait but I am afraid after this first batch of allocations.. What if they don't receive the second batch of allocations given the demand across the world
Thanks
Loki

tstafford

What does the current configurator not have that you want?

mclarenmaniac

Deviated Stitching on the Leather 18 way seats and possible other special colors for exterior.

My current build includes Lava Orange exterior so was wondering if PAG will add deviated stitching in Lava Orange like the option GT3 RS had ?

http://www.porsche-code.com/PJ8UH676

Thanks

MileHigh911

It happens with every model. My guess is that the Saffron metallic color will be added, along with other minor things. The early GT3 guys missed out on the bucket seats.

mclarenmaniac

Wow...its like being penalized for being number one on the allocation list

Saffron is supposed to be a 4 coat paint. Is Lava Orange also a four coat paint. Is it easy to repaint Lava in future by local body shops?

LSs1Power

Well allocations in our country are tough to secure so i didnt wait. I asked for the options not included as CXX. Hopefully they can confirm its possible. Otherwise i will paint the roll bar red and add the Porsche side decals later after receiving the car. I also asked for a Chalk painted RPM dial only.

Lapis

porsche exclusive inn atlanta told me that a deviated stitching package will be offered for production weeks 45 or later this year and that such options will be made officially avail in mid June as an Exclusive option. However, this would be more expensive than the red stitching ($1500 USD) in the configurator now, that is, approx $4500. So I wouldn't get too excited about any other standard deviated stitching colors becoming available in the configurator for same price as red. If they were going to offer Lava Orange stitching standard same price as red, no reason they wouldn't have already done from the start since LO was a launch color.

Lapis

Standard RPM dial is gray (not black). White and red are options. I asked porsche Exclusive about alternative RPM dials (911 R / 911 50th style with green lettering) and they told me it cannot be done since it's not a simple swap (different RPM markings, different vehicle logos) and they don't custom make them for exclusive.

But since standard rpm dial is gray anyway, why other asking them to make it chalk? Would be difficult to tell much difference, no?

Lapis

i asked porsche Exclusive Atlanta last week about saffron for GT3 and was told they're getting asked that a lot after he alledgely saffron new GT3 pics hit the internets. They told me that car might not be saffron. It might be Signal yellow. They wouldn't confirm. They also told me that as of now (last Wednesday), their information is that saffron will still be offered as a special color on Turbo only.

Wouod you seriously consider compete repaint of a brand new GT3 to another color? Can't think of a better way to devalue your new car than to have a local body shop repaint it a different color.

mclarenmaniac

Sorry.. i meant in case of an accident if say bumper needs to be replaced .. It has to be repainted to match factory paint by a local body shop.
How difficult would that be since it's a special paint .. I mean lava orange ?

LSs1Power

If they can't paint the dial as i want i will keep standard Grey. I can do white gauge, but only if they can do the RPM dial only in white and keep the rest in Black. Not sure thats doable.

C.J. Ichiban

I would not plan on crashing your lava orange car. Flat colors don't blend very well. They might look ok for a year or so but don't age well as it is.

You can ask the guy on another thread somewhere who crashed his orange RS how hard it was to repaint.

Wild Weasel

Interesting. I would have thought it would be the opposite and that metallics would be harder to match.

I like that flat colours seem to be much easier to touch up stone chips and stuff.

Z356

Loki: 'Special Color' doesn't mean that the
paint application process for those designated
hues are very complicated or expensive to
get done on a Porsche. None of the 'Special
Colors' for the .2 gt3 take extra time & very
specialized equipment to to paint, UNLIKE
'Saffron', 'Oryx White Pearl Effect' or the
918's super-expensive 'Liquid Metals':



Today at Porsche all paints jobs are multi-staged.
Usually four coats, with the top coat normally being
a 'clear'. The latter is expected/normal for 'metallics'
since day one. But in recent years, the auto industry
is also putting a final coat of 'clear' on all their solid/uni
colors, like 'Guards Red' or 'Lava Orange'.

According to Porsche:

'All four coats of paint make a total layer
of approx. 0.13 millimeters, which is only
slightly thicker than a human hair.'

So keep that in mind.

Colors like 'Saffron Metallic Pearl' or 'Oryx Metallic
Pearl Effect' are also four-coats of paint, but require
an intermediate sanding step. That part is probably
VERY labor intensive & adds to the expected higher
cost of a color like 'Saffron' (price not yet published).

But regardless, difficult-to-do colors like 'Saffron'
are not deemed 'Special Colors' at Porsche...simply
because the Porsche marketing & their color guru
consultants have not decided to include any of them
in that category. As I mentioned before, the extra
pricing for a 'Special Color' like 'Lava Orange' has
nothing to do with the difficulty of the paint process
for that particular color. PAG offers a few 'standard'
uni/solid colors at no charge, some 'metallics' at a
slight up-charge & 'special colors' at a considerable
up-charge. Until recently, the latter was almost as
expensive as PTS. But now they brought PTS to a
higher cost, at least in the 991 model. It is all pretty
arbritary. 'Lava' as a 'Special Color' is only $3150 on
a regular 991.



And the same paint is $4220 on the .2 gt3 (see first
attachment above). Why such a high price for 'Special
Color'? Because PAG can ask & get away with it. People
are willing to pay for it! Nothing more complicated than
that. This current selection of 'Special Colors', such as
'Lava'. 'Miami Blue' & 'Chalk', is welcomed by many veteran
Porsche customers because it's the closest thing to PTS...
but without having to put up with all the bullsh*t associated
with that elusive option - the limited PTS slots, the small
'open window' for the option, the delays & the much higher
cost!

These 'special colors' today (like 'Lava Orange', 'Miami
Blue' & 'Chalk/Crayon') are new paint formulations that,
although different, remind us of very popular colors in
Porsche history - 'Tangerine/BloodOrange', 'Riviera Blue'
& 'Fashion Grey/Modegrau'. So that is my take on it,
for what it's worth!

As an aside, I am making a prediction here today.
I believe PTS will be at least $1K or $2K higher on
the .2 991 gt3 compared to the current $6960 cost
of PTS in a standard 991 or 911 Turbo. That is total
speculation on my part...but we saw PAG raised PTS
prices on the 911R and I believe they will do the same
for the new .2 991 gt3! So practice bending over...

By the way, Porsche was offering 'Special Colors' as
additional hues to the color palette from which you
could order from/since the early 911's. When my old
1970 911 E Targa was ordered back in late 1969, one
could select from 9 regular paint offerings & 21 'special
colors'. My 'Crystal Blau' paint was such a 'Special Color'.
But back then the cost for that rare hue was less than
$200 extra!





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Interesting if that gt3 turns out to be
'Signal Yellow' instead of the reported
'Saffron'. Mike (W8MM) had the same
suspicion. Here is an recent post that
discussed that exact topic:

Post #12
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9844...on-yellow.html

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Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale

mass27

^ Any logical reason why the special color price varies from the GT3 to the 911 considering the quantity of paint is probably almost identical (material cost).

Or is this yet ONE MORE example of "I know you are but what am I" logic in terms of Porsche pricing.