"If you paid this for a 911R-you are a f--xing idiot"
05-17-2017, 09:05 PM
#46
Drifting
Most VIPs knew about the manual in the .2 GT3 long before anybody here did.
You guys think we buy cars because we are flippers? You do realize that the reason why VIPs are VIPs in Porsche's book is because we support Porsche with our hard earned $$$ in the past.
When everyone was writing off the 918, we put down 200K on deposit and bought the car. Some of us go way back to CGT and 959 days.
I still have a 993 GT2 that I bought 15 years ago when it was worth nothing, before all this air cooled craziness started to happen. 964RS? LOL, they were worth under 100K at one point.
You guys think we buy cars because we are flippers? You do realize that the reason why VIPs are VIPs in Porsche's book is because we support Porsche with our hard earned $$$ in the past.
When everyone was writing off the 918, we put down 200K on deposit and bought the car. Some of us go way back to CGT and 959 days.
I still have a 993 GT2 that I bought 15 years ago when it was worth nothing, before all this air cooled craziness started to happen. 964RS? LOL, they were worth under 100K at one point.
05-17-2017, 09:09 PM
#47
Nordschleife Master
Most VIPs knew about the manual in the .2 GT3 long before anybody here did.
You guys think we buy cars because we are flippers? You do realize that the reason why VIPs are VIPs in Porsche's book is because we support Porsche with our hard earned $$$ in the past.
When everyone was writing off the 918, we put down 200K on deposit and bought the car. Some of us go way back to CGT and 959 days.
I still have a 993 GT2 that I bought 15 years ago when it was worth nothing, before all this air cooled craziness started to happen. 964RS? LOL, they were worth under 100K at one point.
You guys think we buy cars because we are flippers? You do realize that the reason why VIPs are VIPs in Porsche's book is because we support Porsche with our hard earned $$$ in the past.
When everyone was writing off the 918, we put down 200K on deposit and bought the car. Some of us go way back to CGT and 959 days.
I still have a 993 GT2 that I bought 15 years ago when it was worth nothing, before all this air cooled craziness started to happen. 964RS? LOL, they were worth under 100K at one point.
I never suggested any of you were flippers. Just that without its limited status, it's not that important a car. Don't be so defensive.
Edit: you don't have to justify your purchase or porsche history to anyone.
05-17-2017, 09:12 PM
#48
Three Wheelin'
Most VIPs knew about the manual in the .2 GT3 long before anybody here did.
You guys think we buy cars because we are flippers? You do realize that the reason why VIPs are VIPs in Porsche's book is because we support Porsche with our hard earned $$$ in the past.
When everyone was writing off the 918, we put down 200K on deposit and bought the car. Some of us go way back to CGT and 959 days.
I still have a 993 GT2 that I bought 15 years ago when it was worth nothing, before all this air cooled craziness started to happen. 964RS? LOL, they were worth under 100K at one point.
You guys think we buy cars because we are flippers? You do realize that the reason why VIPs are VIPs in Porsche's book is because we support Porsche with our hard earned $$$ in the past.
When everyone was writing off the 918, we put down 200K on deposit and bought the car. Some of us go way back to CGT and 959 days.
I still have a 993 GT2 that I bought 15 years ago when it was worth nothing, before all this air cooled craziness started to happen. 964RS? LOL, they were worth under 100K at one point.
I assumed most 918-er's were just high enough on the food chain that Porsche didn't care what they did with their allocations as long as they could unload the 918
05-17-2017, 09:18 PM
#49
Drifting
So why has there been so many repeated threads on 911R bashing and market value? Because people are butt hurt about the hierarchy order that Porsche has created with the limited edition.
Let me tell you, this situation will not get better. More limited editions are coming and it will be like dejavu all over again.
05-17-2017, 09:30 PM
#50
Nordschleife Master
I think you are missing my point. If the 911R wasn't limited, there wouldn't be all this backlash on Rennlist. People who wanted one couldn't get one and are now butt hurt. People who didn't care about the 911R and didn't wanted one, are also butt hurt about how their GT3/GT3RS is trading below what they paid for and the R is worth so much more. It's like the GT4, a brilliant car. Most VIPs bought one. Do you even care if VIPs bought a GT4? Of course not because you could buy one too if you wanted to.
So why has there been so many repeated threads on 911R bashing and market value? Because people are butt hurt about the hierarchy order that Porsche has created with the limited edition.
Let me tell you, this situation will not get better. More limited editions are coming and it will be like dejavu all over again.
So why has there been so many repeated threads on 911R bashing and market value? Because people are butt hurt about the hierarchy order that Porsche has created with the limited edition.
Let me tell you, this situation will not get better. More limited editions are coming and it will be like dejavu all over again.
I'm not butt hurt about anything. I was just stating my opinion.
05-18-2017, 02:37 PM
#54
Three Wheelin'
I think you are missing my point. If the 911R wasn't limited, there wouldn't be all this backlash on Rennlist. People who wanted one couldn't get one and are now butt hurt. People who didn't care about the 911R and didn't wanted one, are also butt hurt about how their GT3/GT3RS is trading below what they paid for and the R is worth so much more. It's like the GT4, a brilliant car. Most VIPs bought one. Do you even care if VIPs bought a GT4? Of course not because you could buy one too if you wanted to.
So why has there been so many repeated threads on 911R bashing and market value? Because people are butt hurt about the hierarchy order that Porsche has created with the limited edition.
Let me tell you, this situation will not get better. More limited editions are coming and it will be like dejavu all over again.
So why has there been so many repeated threads on 911R bashing and market value? Because people are butt hurt about the hierarchy order that Porsche has created with the limited edition.
Let me tell you, this situation will not get better. More limited editions are coming and it will be like dejavu all over again.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
05-18-2017, 04:02 PM
#56
Look its a cool car. But between a .2 GT3 manual, a .1 RS, and and 911r. For me it is RS>.2 GT3 manual>911R. Now if the .2 RS is manual than that clearly goes to numero uno.
05-18-2017, 04:47 PM
#57
What you say is totally fine with me. It's a personal opinion.
For myself, I'd disagree, because the R is different in the ways I want it to be different - less grip, feels lighter, more agile, more
'Hot rod" than track car etc. It's not as quick, but I don't care. (I will care when it comes to the GT2RS...).
I don't give two hoots about being a 'VIP', as, in many ways, that's like being a hooker's favourite client. My r is not staying in the garage (c3000 miles already), because if my eventual prosperity relies on a relatively mass-produced 911, I will have failed with everything else! Putting miles on an R hopefully won't impact my life; not putting miles on would lessen it!
I'm not overly sensitive, it just p"sses me off when the random R generalisations appear frequently on here from people who haven't even driven them. Even worse when specific threads are started to facilitate the same old stuff.
For a lot of people, it is clearly the justified annoyance at Porsche translating into unjustified enmity towards the car and by extension its owners.
Jethro Bovingdon is contradictory and juvenile but at least he has the excuse of trying to get an audience!
It would be great if everyone else kept an open mind, and didn't just join, or instigate, the bandwagon (until such time as I don't get a GT2RS when it will become the crappiest car Porsche has ever made ;-)).
05-18-2017, 06:11 PM
#58
Nordschleife Master
Footsoldier,never mind the noise,just enjoy the car. I'd love to have one! If one reads my signature without being familiar with my posts,they would think I'm butt hurt. I'm not. If one spends 500K on this car it means he's way smarter than me because he worked himself into that position and it probably won't " dent " his account much.
I have lost quite a bit of respect(of the little I had anyway) regarding Jethro. I don't see him sticking around for long if he continues down this path.
I have lost quite a bit of respect(of the little I had anyway) regarding Jethro. I don't see him sticking around for long if he continues down this path.
05-18-2017, 08:01 PM
#59
Drifting
I think some of you here don't get the point.
In mooty language.
an RS is an RS.
an R is an R.
GT3 is whatever compare to those 2. Don't care if .1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 etc.
p.s
if you don't think so - look back of some of the comments of 991.1 gt3 owner comments to comments now that the 991.2 is out. completely 180 degree.
Rennlist members " oh the .1 will be the only 9,000 reving motor, classic, keeper, my kids , kids , kids , kids will keep it , collection, i don't care if blows up under my legs, i'll fix it, porsche will take care of me".
now most are running to every dealer to get a .2 and dumping .1 like a fire sale.
Very likely, no R in .2
If their is , very likely if you don't have one now - you won't get one then either at msrp.
me personally, i would take an R any day over a GT3. Between RS and R, well R is limited production, therefore that's the one i would take.
In mooty language.
an RS is an RS.
an R is an R.
GT3 is whatever compare to those 2. Don't care if .1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 etc.
p.s
if you don't think so - look back of some of the comments of 991.1 gt3 owner comments to comments now that the 991.2 is out. completely 180 degree.
Rennlist members " oh the .1 will be the only 9,000 reving motor, classic, keeper, my kids , kids , kids , kids will keep it , collection, i don't care if blows up under my legs, i'll fix it, porsche will take care of me".
now most are running to every dealer to get a .2 and dumping .1 like a fire sale.
Very likely, no R in .2
If their is , very likely if you don't have one now - you won't get one then either at msrp.
me personally, i would take an R any day over a GT3. Between RS and R, well R is limited production, therefore that's the one i would take.
05-18-2017, 08:16 PM
#60
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I think some of you here don't get the point.
In mooty language.
an RS is an RS.
an R is an R.
GT3 is whatever compare to those 2. Don't care if .1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 etc.
p.s
if you don't think so - look back of some of the comments of 991.1 gt3 owner comments to comments now that the 991.2 is out. completely 180 degree.
Rennlist members " oh the .1 will be the only 9,000 reving motor, classic, keeper, my kids , kids , kids , kids will keep it , collection, i don't care if blows up under my legs, i'll fix it, porsche will take care of me".
now most are running to every dealer to get a .2 and dumping .1 like a fire sale.
Very likely, no R in .2
If their is , very likely if you don't have one now - you won't get one then either at msrp.
me personally, i would take an R any day over a GT3. Between RS and R, well R is limited production, therefore that's the one i would take.
In mooty language.
an RS is an RS.
an R is an R.
GT3 is whatever compare to those 2. Don't care if .1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 etc.
p.s
if you don't think so - look back of some of the comments of 991.1 gt3 owner comments to comments now that the 991.2 is out. completely 180 degree.
Rennlist members " oh the .1 will be the only 9,000 reving motor, classic, keeper, my kids , kids , kids , kids will keep it , collection, i don't care if blows up under my legs, i'll fix it, porsche will take care of me".
now most are running to every dealer to get a .2 and dumping .1 like a fire sale.
Very likely, no R in .2
If their is , very likely if you don't have one now - you won't get one then either at msrp.
me personally, i would take an R any day over a GT3. Between RS and R, well R is limited production, therefore that's the one i would take.
Also jethro compares the pdk version with the R, im sure the manual will be somewhat different to drive due gearing,dual flywheel and mech diff setup.