NateOZ

This thread reminds me that the best money I ever spent on cars was joining a private track. To me it's not only just about courtesy, but more importantly safety.

mooty

somewhere someone has a video of me with middle finger up approaching T14... i have since calmed down a lot

996FLT6

I use to run a mk1 spec gti. Talk about hand signals!!! Some mustang at LS would not let me pass he would just gun it at the straight only to catch him on the next corner. There was a hand signal but not from me. Mustang driver would wave his hand "bye bye" at exit of t11. Mike

savyboy

A quick follow-up to note that David Ray (HOD "owner" and chief honcho) reached out to me to:

1. Apologize (completely unnecessary)
2. Reiterate that they do very much care about stuff like this (and the belligerent BMW driver in same session)
3. Advise they are in discussion with HOD team members and track staff about it.
4. Strongly encourage real-time hot pit feedback from drivers who are experiencing uncooperative fellow drivers so that they can take action (they want to).

Bottom line- once the Group Leader in this situation was made aware of situation they did take action. Emphasis at future drivers meeting/download will be placed on getting traffic around you and do more of it in brake zone as opposed to corner exits: as Joe noted, tough to get a run out when slow in, advanced drivers can be well served with mutually cooperative passing into a brake zone.

I've had personal experience with two event hosts over the years who were not receptive to feedback, and I'll never run with them again. The leadership at HOD did welcome my (our) feedback (as always) and we had a very positive discussion.

This was a good thread for some venting and, positive, constructive airing of grievance.

David said he would quote me when I noted GT3's perhaps were becoming the Corvettes of previous years in regards to the manner in which they were driven! (present company excluded of course, you know what I mean)

Onward upward!

tstafford

Don't bail out on doing a track day because of this thread. I started in earnest a year ago and have had nothing but good experiences. What I'm reading here isn't representative of anything I've seen in the novice groups of multiple organizers.

Archimedes

I agree, I'm just waiting for clearance from my doctors. Still under 'no contact' orders from the Doc and need to be 100 symptom free for an extended period before I go out on track. Race against time to do it this summer.

996FLT6

You should give NASA NORCAL a try Pete : ). All other DE organized will be angels from there on : ). Mike

24Chromium

^

So true!

mooty

LMAO, now that you retired from tracking, no one spins out ROUTINELY in front of me anymore. no wonder i am losing interest tracking.

bensf

Speaking of spinning out. This driver did a great job of getting out of the way after.

996FLT6

^ At least u know I'm predictable : ). I lost my passion for tracking. But I can say I had my best times with Mooty. Mike

mooty

^ yeah, anyone else behind you, you would been hit 10x by now.
it was hard to control my laughing in the car so as not to drive into the dirt watching your aerobatics.

996FLT6

^My advantage though when I turn -u just never know- lol!!! I do spin safely though- give me that : ). Mike

996FLT6

Anyway- things can get crappy at times. Just live and learn about it. Only control you have is yourself. Mike