New AP interview on GT3, PDK vs Manual etc.
#77
Nordschleife Master
Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Very cool, I agree.
Look forward to it Joe.
Somebody get Joe a manual stat!
But I see clutches and LSD's in your future (that's a lot of RPM and power sent through the driveline) and some additional point by's given..
I'm 2 seconds faster at Sebring in 991RS VS 997 4.0. Only mod on 4.0 was LSD..
And I shift slow, very slow because saving gearbox and clutch.
there's more down force and ediff as well. Manual might only account for a second or less!
I agree that driver is more likely to be the biggest variable but there are a lot of advantages in the PDK car comparo, so if you're going against DE guys that you're filing it out with now PDK VS PDK, I think you have no chance.
There's always an upshift on the limit, that one part where the car JUST runs out of gear before braking, etc.
1 second I bet is all you're losing but it is a LOT, both to find and to see the car in front leave you :-)
I won't, but I do hope you get a manual. You're much better at shifting then me rev matching helps save the clutch too.
I'm not getting PDK for the second a lap, I just like it more playing CUP / F1 driver :-) and durability without risk of a money shift.
Look forward to it Joe.
Somebody get Joe a manual stat!
But I see clutches and LSD's in your future (that's a lot of RPM and power sent through the driveline) and some additional point by's given..
I'm 2 seconds faster at Sebring in 991RS VS 997 4.0. Only mod on 4.0 was LSD..
And I shift slow, very slow because saving gearbox and clutch.
there's more down force and ediff as well. Manual might only account for a second or less!
I agree that driver is more likely to be the biggest variable but there are a lot of advantages in the PDK car comparo, so if you're going against DE guys that you're filing it out with now PDK VS PDK, I think you have no chance.
There's always an upshift on the limit, that one part where the car JUST runs out of gear before braking, etc.
1 second I bet is all you're losing but it is a LOT, both to find and to see the car in front leave you :-)
I won't, but I do hope you get a manual. You're much better at shifting then me rev matching helps save the clutch too.
I'm not getting PDK for the second a lap, I just like it more playing CUP / F1 driver :-) and durability without risk of a money shift.
Is the e-diff in pdk the real advantage that nobody is talking about? Is the diff in the manual the real disadvantage?
#78
Rennlist Member
I'm sure the E diff is smarter and faster.
Harder to trail brake but not much need for it anymore anyway.
The mechanical diff I assume can be custom tailored again to your driving style but costs $$ and testing time to get it right.
It also raises the gearbox and diff oil temps in the 997's adding to clutch failures due to extreme heat cycling. They didn't wear, they failed.
Harder to trail brake but not much need for it anymore anyway.
The mechanical diff I assume can be custom tailored again to your driving style but costs $$ and testing time to get it right.
It also raises the gearbox and diff oil temps in the 997's adding to clutch failures due to extreme heat cycling. They didn't wear, they failed.
#79
Nordschleife Master
Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
I'm sure the E diff is smarter and faster.
Harder to trail brake but not much need for it anymore anyway.
The mechanical diff I assume can be custom tailored again to your driving style but costs $$ and testing time to get it right.
It also raises the gearbox and diff oil temps in the 997's adding to clutch failures due to extreme heat cycling. They didn't wear, they failed.
Harder to trail brake but not much need for it anymore anyway.
The mechanical diff I assume can be custom tailored again to your driving style but costs $$ and testing time to get it right.
It also raises the gearbox and diff oil temps in the 997's adding to clutch failures due to extreme heat cycling. They didn't wear, they failed.
#81
Nordschleife Master
Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
I said that I see more clutches and point by's in your future ;-)
#82
Yes, I would love to see it.
#83
Also, though I know you disagree, some people find the PDK to really be enjoyable to drive when the speeds ramp up like they do on the track. PDK is a different experience for sure, not all negative when compared to the manual. And, as others have said, for the mere mortal driver, the increased possibility that the drivetrain eats itself on track due to one mistake is another big consideration.
#84
Nordschleife Master
Originally Posted by Archimedes
I don't think it has anything to do with blaming others for their slow driving, per se, unless they're a clueless dope. I think it's simply about the lower/average skilled driver want to maximize their speed and lap times on track and the PDK affords them a material delta in that regard. And, while everyone loves to bench race to the point that they convince themselves they're the second coming of Arton Senna, truth is most people out on track are more like the second coming of Ricky Bobby.
Also, though I know you disagree, some people find the PDK to really be enjoyable to drive when the speeds ramp up like they do on the track. PDK is a different experience for sure, not all negative when compared to the manual. And, as others have said, for the mere mortal driver, the increased possibility that the drivetrain eats itself on track due to one mistake is another big consideration.
Also, though I know you disagree, some people find the PDK to really be enjoyable to drive when the speeds ramp up like they do on the track. PDK is a different experience for sure, not all negative when compared to the manual. And, as others have said, for the mere mortal driver, the increased possibility that the drivetrain eats itself on track due to one mistake is another big consideration.
I'm considering a manual just to try it out and see what it's like. I should be getting an RS (which I'm assuming will be pdk) less than a year later so it gives me some time to play.
#86
Sorry, typo, i was moving too fast this morning.