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Comparing 991.2 GT3 with prior R/RS models shows .2 superior?

Old 05-06-2017, 09:53 PM
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Old 05-07-2017, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by fun2k
Lets just say I wouldn't sell a 4.0 to buy a 7.2 rs but i also wouldn't sell a 7.2 rs to buy 4.0 either. Carrera GT and 4.0 are my 2 fav porsches, wouldn't mind a few pics of your car though.
Would agree with you on the above.

A pic of my car on another thread if you're interested

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...l#post14152216

Bronson7 - have to admit if the car was at msrp or just below I would use it a fair bit lot more. I still drive/track it but I'd be lying if I said I didn't keep half an eye on the mileage.
Old 05-07-2017, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by isv
fun2k has a fairly valid point I reckon. The 7.2rs is imo very similar to the 4.0 and I'm lucky enough to have the latter. It's nonsensical the 2 cars are so far apart now in pricing. The 4.0 is better (engine noticeably so and rear axle more stable but more subtle) but 2x or whatever it is now? No way. Outside of the x/600 plaque, the initial base price difference (15% iirc?) was more or less accurate in reflecting the difference between the cars I thought at the time and tbh in many respects I still do. If I were financially sensible I'd replace the 4.0 with the 7.2 and use the difference to load up on some differential and suspension changes truth be told but I can't quite bear to sell it either it has to be admitted. Never said I was sensible anyway
Getting deeper OT. Maybe we should take to 997 board but I did throw in a couple OT sentences at the bottom.

Fun2k was comparing 7.2gt3 to 4.0; so that was basis of my comments. Yes, your 7.2rs much closer to 4.0 experience than 7.2Gt3.

LE plaque aside, 7.2rs/4.0 MSRP spread would be way too close imo, but current spread clearly reflects scarcity and fact that it is the pinnacle of mezger n/a. And the latter i believe is every bit as important as the plaque. This is what separates 997-4.0 from something like the 991R for me. I hold onto the 4.0 at these levels not because of the LE plaque, but because it is the no compromise king of mezger NA. Without that, I'd sell and buy 7.2rs at these levels for sure.

That said, ZERO knock on the R or its owners because I've never driven one. And I've never driven a 991.2 Gt3. I have driven and own a 991.1rs. But from my perspective, I think it's kinda pointless to compare cars i've never driven.

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Old 05-07-2017, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by isv
Would agree with you on the above.

A pic of my car on another thread if you're interested

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...l#post14152216

Bronson7 - have to admit if the car was at msrp or just below I would use it a fair bit lot more. I still drive/track it but I'd be lying if I said I didn't keep half an eye on the mileage.
Exactly how I figured most owners would feel.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
In 15-20 years no one will know how to drive a manual.

And few, if any, will know how to service/fix a manual transmission.
With 65 years' worth of Manual Porsches already on the road, I wouldn't trust any mechanic who doesn't know how to service a manual.

If PDK is superceded by some other technology, finding a mechanic to service pdk could be more challenging in the future...
Old 05-07-2017, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
With 65 years' worth of Manual Porsches already on the road, I wouldn't trust any mechanic who doesn't know how to service a manual.

If PDK is superceded by some other technology, finding a mechanic to service pdk could be more challenging in the future...
old days mechanics are already retired
if not dead
Old 05-07-2017, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bronson7
Here's a question for you guys who have a 997 4.0 purchased at msrp. If the car was still at msrp or even a bit below, would you then drive/track it more?
Yes!

We all have a limit or number that we are comfortable scrapping at the race track.
Impossible to get track unsurance on my 4.0l in Sweden. There is a thread in the 997gt3 section about a owner driving his 4.0l on track with two or three other cars. I would be very comfortable doing that with my 4.0l
Not with a whole bunch of cars. More comfortable tracking a cheaper car that I can push to my limits.

On the other hand, there was a Pagani owner tracking his car at Sebring yesterday with Chin. We all have different size wallets and risk perspective.
Old 05-07-2017, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fxz
old days mechanics are already retired
if not dead
You don't have to be as old as the car you're trained to fix...
Old 05-07-2017, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
You don't have to be as old as the car you're trained to fix...
Lol
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Originally Posted by fxz
old days mechanics are already retired
if not dead


And the new generations will step up...manual gearboxes are much easier to fiddle with than Automatics and PDKs so if they can't fixed manuals they can't fix anything else!
Old 05-07-2017, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
In 15-20 years no one will know how to drive a manual.

And few, if any, will know how to service/fix a manual transmission.
Originally Posted by rave426
In 15-20 years PDK will be Atari....kinda
In 15-20 years MT will be dinosaurs.

At least today you can still find a functioning Atari game console.
Old 05-08-2017, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
to quote yoda mooty -- not driving your hot porsche is like saving your hot girlfriend for the next guy

Never heard this quote before but will never forget- so true
Well, for some super baller owners, they have about 10 super hot girlfriends... can't satisfy them all at the same time... so the next guy gets the hot girlfriend and the super baller owner doesn't care.

Not condoning it (4500 miles on my LT in 1 year and 1500 on my GT4 in first 6 months of ownership) but the analogy works for a lot of ridiculously rich owners.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
In 15-20 years MT will be dinosaurs.

At least today you can still find a functioning Atari game console.
Atari are still fun to be played
dynosaurs are bubble wrapped and graved in pretending collector supposed museums ...


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