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Old 12-15-2017, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by gago1101
How does this fit with all the talk about the Euro emissions? Is the .2 RS going to be a very limited run or what?


dont think it will be limited. If it is i may be out of my spot. All 918 buyers will be first. Need to get into the next vip program.
Old 12-15-2017, 06:11 PM
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dont think it will be limited. If it is i may be out of my spot. All 918 buyers will be first. Need to get into the next vip program.
VIPs can get only 1 model per series
Old 12-15-2017, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by evilfij
CJ,

Do you own old cars? I would drive a cup on the road (not that I have driven one to know). Can’t be any worse than a 49 Jag or 62 Ferrari (or a late model Exige lol). What do you mean temperamental?

Any more word on whether a 6MT is in the works? That is the only thing that would interest me in upgrading to the RS. Honestly, I still don’t think I would do it because I love the look of the touring, although my dream Porsche is a 997 RS frog (got to the dealer too late to get one and like an idiot turned down a 4.0 because I was poor enough to think the cost bump was material and thought the graphics looked stupid) if a manual was available in the 991.2 RS I might bite on a PTS green.

I've owned one, and CJ is LONG right. No way in HELL would I drive that thing on a regular road with much of any joy. The thing wants to be full throttle or full brake, doesn't hold revs consistently for **** when you're trying to take off in the pits (fine for the 6 minutes you're in the pits lined up, MISERABLE on a road), and the suspension is so hard, you'd probably lose multiple teeth if you hit even a minor pot hole. Plus, it would be no fun unless you lived where you had multiple miles of nearly closed off roads where you could give it the beans.
Old 12-16-2017, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sechsgang
I've owned one, and CJ is LONG right. No way in HELL would I drive that thing on a regular road with much of any joy. The thing wants to be full throttle or full brake, doesn't hold revs consistently for **** when you're trying to take off in the pits (fine for the 6 minutes you're in the pits lined up, MISERABLE on a road), and the suspension is so hard, you'd probably lose multiple teeth if you hit even a minor pot hole. Plus, it would be no fun unless you lived where you had multiple miles of nearly closed off roads where you could give it the beans.
Everyone talks about wanting to drive a cup car like car on the street, they don't know what they are talking about. I want A/C, power windows, bluetooth, navi, heater, and no slicks when I'm driving on the street. haha
Old 12-17-2017, 01:27 AM
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Just wanted to share with you my amazing experience with Porsche of Fremont, CA.
Been working with them for 3 years and between sales, service and finance, they are just good.
Got a confirmation today by the GM that I am getting a build slot for a 991.2 GT3RS at MSRP in spring/summer 2018...PTS baby.
It was a chat after I received the confirmation in writing a few months ago. Yes I paid ADM for my gt4 and gt3 but the plan was to move up the food chain.
So excited to get my spec on the gt3rs at sticker!
Old 12-17-2017, 02:22 AM
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^ congrats. they're great to work with and i will be sporting an 9912RS with fresno porsche license frame in near future as well
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Everyone talks about wanting to drive a cup car like car on the street, they don't know what they are talking about. I want A/C, power windows, bluetooth, navi, heater, and no slicks when I'm driving on the street. haha
those are the one's who take viagra just to pee.
i HAVE driven 996 cup 997 cuip and GT4CS ON THE STREET, yes illegally. and even passed bay bridge and paid toll. i think i even showed a pic to spyerX hahha
guess what, you DONT want to drive a cup car on the street.
i must rather get castrated then cup on the street.

some wishes are just BAD AND IGNORANT.
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Originally Posted by evilfij
CJ,

Do you own old cars? I would drive a cup on the road (not that I have driven one to know). Can’t be any worse than a 49 Jag or 62 Ferrari (or a late model Exige lol). What do you mean temperamental?

Any more word on whether a 6MT is in the works? That is the only thing that would interest me in upgrading to the RS. Honestly, I still don’t think I would do it because I love the look of the touring, although my dream Porsche is a 997 RS frog (got to the dealer too late to get one and like an idiot turned down a 4.0 because I was poor enough to think the cost bump was material and thought the graphics looked stupid) if a manual was available in the 991.2 RS I might bite on a PTS green.
i have some old car. 68 bug, 72 911T, 2006 exige, 2006 elise. ALL of them are tame and EXTREMELY comfortable like a sofa compared to cup car. it bucks so much i swear i thought it's about to blow up.
Old 12-17-2017, 05:10 AM
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I think guys who said "cup edition" want a car like a 993 RS clubsport or a 964 RS this cars are hardcore for street... I drive this car on street its my best moments in car driving
Old 12-17-2017, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante
I'm a big fan of 991RS...keep on tracking my one and always surprised by how capable is on track (and comfy on the road at the same time); think the car needs just "minor" upgrades to be really perfect ...assuming a huge HP gain is not feasable in the current (and future) flat 6 NA world
30/40kilos less, 30/40 ponies more, more detailed steering, better 4WS action, and some more aero especially in the front (but this should be provided by the new bumper..speaking with some Cup drivers) would make a really great car, looking forward it...and hoping to get one!
Would be nice a PDK-S based on the new 8 speed which also seems to be lighter than the current one...but I don't think Porsche is willing to do that.

Going slightly OT...I say I'm not a fan of the current HP escalation driven by turbos, I think they add not much to the driving experience (apart the thrilling acceleration) but add more stress to brakes and tyres (the weak link in such an hyper-engineering of track oriented cars) taking off consistency along several lap times. The first time I tracked RS was a bit disappointed by the engine, actually I do believe that the car (with such a right ratioed gearbox) is a perfect package to go flat out and enjoy for an entire lap (along several laps) in terms of agility, late braking, number of upshifts etc..
exactly my thoughts.
on the front aero, I think I solved it with more rake, lowering the nose but not the rear.
you need 19” wheels to make it work without rubbing. Car is very neutral now.
im at max wing, max bar front and rear and it seems to work.

turbos will be faster, but for now I like turbo cars just for on the street and the 4.0 can still give fight to all other street / track cars..
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
I still have no idea why people keep insinuating there would be a cup edition. For the road.

Get a cup car, drive that on the road...totally miserable. Anything remotely as temperamental as a cup car...pass.
Originally Posted by mooty
those are the one's who take viagra just to pee.
i HAVE driven 996 cup 997 cuip and GT4CS ON THE STREET, yes illegally. and even passed bay bridge and paid toll. i think i even showed a pic to spyerX hahha
guess what, you DONT want to drive a cup car on the street.
i must rather get castrated then cup on the street.

some wishes are just BAD AND IGNORANT.
Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Everyone talks about wanting to drive a cup car like car on the street, they don't know what they are talking about. I want A/C, power windows, bluetooth, navi, heater, and no slicks when I'm driving on the street. haha
You guys crack me up. Nobody asking/hoping for a "Cup Edition" is talking about driving an actual Cup on the street. What we're asking for is a road-legal 911 GT more singularly focused on track. That would include but not be limited to:

- PFC Cup or similar brakes that don't require removal of calipers and potential striping every time you want to change a set of pads.
- 5-lugs or CL's that are air-gun compatible and don't require a monkey circus to change.
- track focused gearing for better drive off corners
- sub-3,000lb wet weight. it ain't that hard.
- proper de-contented RS interior. if I want a Panamera interior I'll buy a Panemera or one of the 20 other 911's with it. how about just a simple MOTEC dash and switch panel?
- DOT track-tire compatible wheels and suspension.
- factory installed rollbar mounting plates. time to tell the lawyers to man up and start providing proper protection for their track focused cars and customers.
- ideally cockpit adjustable ABS and sway bars.
- multiple seat widths. because one size does not fit all and it matters on track.
- stiffer springs - current RS suspension is too soft. At least this looks likely given the GT2 RS....

McLaren is moving the game forward. Time for Porsche to pick up the pace.

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Old 12-17-2017, 08:15 PM
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^ yah, i am good for that.
but i fear it's a pipe dream.... and of course grass is not legal in CA...
Old 12-17-2017, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mooty
and of course grass is not legal in CA...
maybe not de jure but certainly de facto. and give it time; they need the revenue too much..
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Originally Posted by Nizer
You guys crack me up. Nobody asking/hoping for a "Cup Edition" is talking about driving an actual Cup on the street. What we're asking for is a road-legal 911 GT more singularly focused on track. That would include but not be limited to...
Agree with you and Metzeger.

I want a "Cup for the street", not a Cup for the street. Basically a more hardcore GT3RS.
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Originally Posted by Kobalt
Agree with you and Metzeger.

I want a "Cup for the street", not a Cup for the street. Basically a more hardcore GT3RS.
I think it's only going the other way; each iteration will be less hardcore.


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