911R Owner Looks to Make Australian $800K
03-03-2017, 01:53 AM
#1
Three Wheelin'
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911R Owner Looks to Make Australian $800K
Excerpts from the Australian article:
"In the last few years limited-number cars are really spiking up."
"Porsche is incredibly in demand – there's a revival of the Porsche brand in incredible fashion. People are getting very aware of what to buy."
"There have been a number of cars that changed hands internationally for upwards of one million."
"There is a lot of animosity with the dealers and manufacturers."
"We like to sell our cars to people who want to drive them and enjoy them."
"The vetting process comes down to the discretion of the dealer in consultation with the head office."
"We try and make sure that people we sell those cars to are advocates of the brand and enthusiasts... sometimes it slips through the net."
"Manufacturers try to control who buys what and who sells what, which is against the trade practices act."
"It's nothing illegal. It's a very straightforward business transaction. You could buy a beautiful pair of Nike shoes and put them on eBay tomorrow. What's the difference?"
"The Porsche spokesman says the owner who listed this car for sale may be blacklisted from buying similar examples."
"I think they would find it very difficult to get a limited edition car in the future," Ellis says.
"We can't stamp this out, it does happen and it will happen. It goes against the grain of how we like to do our business in Australia and how we like these cars to go into the garages of Porsche aficionados. Not people who go on and flip it, to double the price of the car."
"If you are the buyer of a car that doubles in values you remain faithful to the brand for the rest of your life."
LINK:
http://www.afr.com/lifestyle/cars-bi...social_twitter
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
"In the last few years limited-number cars are really spiking up."
"Porsche is incredibly in demand – there's a revival of the Porsche brand in incredible fashion. People are getting very aware of what to buy."
"There have been a number of cars that changed hands internationally for upwards of one million."
"There is a lot of animosity with the dealers and manufacturers."
"We like to sell our cars to people who want to drive them and enjoy them."
"The vetting process comes down to the discretion of the dealer in consultation with the head office."
"We try and make sure that people we sell those cars to are advocates of the brand and enthusiasts... sometimes it slips through the net."
"Manufacturers try to control who buys what and who sells what, which is against the trade practices act."
"It's nothing illegal. It's a very straightforward business transaction. You could buy a beautiful pair of Nike shoes and put them on eBay tomorrow. What's the difference?"
"The Porsche spokesman says the owner who listed this car for sale may be blacklisted from buying similar examples."
"I think they would find it very difficult to get a limited edition car in the future," Ellis says.
"We can't stamp this out, it does happen and it will happen. It goes against the grain of how we like to do our business in Australia and how we like these cars to go into the garages of Porsche aficionados. Not people who go on and flip it, to double the price of the car."
"If you are the buyer of a car that doubles in values you remain faithful to the brand for the rest of your life."
LINK:
http://www.afr.com/lifestyle/cars-bi...social_twitter
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
03-03-2017, 02:23 AM
#2
We currently have two up for grabs downunder ..........
One in Melbourne going for $991,991 and the other in Sydney for $1.2 mil
https://www.carsales.com.au/car/pors...srcx=makemodel
One in Melbourne going for $991,991 and the other in Sydney for $1.2 mil
https://www.carsales.com.au/car/pors...srcx=makemodel
03-03-2017, 04:49 AM
#3
If for those buyers paying 300-400k$ over is like for me paying 100$ over (and most probably is) then what's wrong with it?
They are aware that being the richest in the graveyard gets them no reward.
The seller can only be lucky if he finds one buyer at this price. I would do the same day or night.
They are aware that being the richest in the graveyard gets them no reward.
The seller can only be lucky if he finds one buyer at this price. I would do the same day or night.
03-03-2017, 08:16 AM
#5
Nordschleife Master
Seems a little short sighted perhaps on buyers end. Kudos to seller.
A lot of money for a $186k msrp car. I would think that's more than all the money for the following reasons and observations and don't think many of the others not subject to VIP aren't wondering if they should sell. As buyer I would have a concern about this unless he just chits money and pisses gold.
1. over 200 cars being available on market once VIP program ends and likely many owners seeing those numbers have to be wringing there hands just waiting out VIP.
2. Getting close to classic R and RS numbers today. Thus buyer may be getting all the money years early. Things that go up must/usually come down especially when it's that fast. 918 and CGT totally different.
3. GT3.2 with mt and 4.0L
Anyway to all those that rip me over "numbers" don't matter" and why do you care, who cares etc....
I present to you exhibit A as to why numbers matter.
I rest my case.
A lot of money for a $186k msrp car. I would think that's more than all the money for the following reasons and observations and don't think many of the others not subject to VIP aren't wondering if they should sell. As buyer I would have a concern about this unless he just chits money and pisses gold.
1. over 200 cars being available on market once VIP program ends and likely many owners seeing those numbers have to be wringing there hands just waiting out VIP.
2. Getting close to classic R and RS numbers today. Thus buyer may be getting all the money years early. Things that go up must/usually come down especially when it's that fast. 918 and CGT totally different.
3. GT3.2 with mt and 4.0L
Anyway to all those that rip me over "numbers" don't matter" and why do you care, who cares etc....
I present to you exhibit A as to why numbers matter.
I rest my case.
03-03-2017, 08:50 AM
#7
Burning Brakes
Sneaking suspicion the seller is linked to the s/hand trader who is listing it. So agree PCA missed that one. Im miffed as apparently I was no.4 in Brisbane when only three allocated to my dealer.. or so they say.. and I would have drove it until it clicked over 100,000km on a daily commute...or maybe not 
One thing though is potentially it keeps the relative value of the more accessible models up a little as well, so possibly not all bad.
One thing though is potentially it keeps the relative value of the more accessible models up a little as well, so possibly not all bad.
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03-03-2017, 09:09 AM
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03-03-2017, 09:26 AM
#11
Instructor
I guess that depends if you're done with the brand, even I was told to keep mine for 12 months or face the consequences...I'd like to keep buying in the future so rather not go down that path.
03-03-2017, 09:27 AM
#12
Seems a little short sighted perhaps on buyers end. Kudos to seller.
A lot of money for a $186k msrp car. I would think that's more than all the money for the following reasons and observations and don't think many of the others not subject to VIP aren't wondering if they should sell. As buyer I would have a concern about this unless he just chits money and pisses gold.
1. over 200 cars being available on market once VIP program ends and likely many owners seeing those numbers have to be wringing there hands just waiting out VIP.
2. Getting close to classic R and RS numbers today. Thus buyer may be getting all the money years early. Things that go up must/usually come down especially when it's that fast. 918 and CGT totally different.
3. GT3.2 with mt and 4.0L
Anyway to all those that rip me over "numbers" don't matter" and why do you care, who cares etc....
I present to you exhibit A as to why numbers matter.
I rest my case.
A lot of money for a $186k msrp car. I would think that's more than all the money for the following reasons and observations and don't think many of the others not subject to VIP aren't wondering if they should sell. As buyer I would have a concern about this unless he just chits money and pisses gold.
1. over 200 cars being available on market once VIP program ends and likely many owners seeing those numbers have to be wringing there hands just waiting out VIP.
2. Getting close to classic R and RS numbers today. Thus buyer may be getting all the money years early. Things that go up must/usually come down especially when it's that fast. 918 and CGT totally different.
3. GT3.2 with mt and 4.0L
Anyway to all those that rip me over "numbers" don't matter" and why do you care, who cares etc....
I present to you exhibit A as to why numbers matter.
I rest my case.
1. In a free market no transaction takes place unless both parties benefit.
2. Buyers at these levels don't think of it as money, but simply currency. They view real Money and Wealth as: land, gold & silver, art, vintage shotgun collections, shares of stock, business ownership, commercial real estate and productive debt, which creates capital.
3. Currency is only numbers on a computer screen or paper on your pocket, which only has any value (constantly declining value) because of some "government decree."
4. No luggage racks on coffins
03-03-2017, 04:58 PM
#14
Oh please. Was this guy chuckling when he made those two ridiculous comments?
03-03-2017, 05:46 PM
#15
Three Wheelin'
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