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Old 01-27-2017, 05:53 AM
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Graphics can always be added from a reputable shop. Sometimes I cant even justify paying such a huge mark up for PTS color
How much do racer-boy sticker kits like that go for these days?
Old 01-27-2017, 10:25 AM
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Porcshe thinks they can slap on any limited this or that and the cars will sell. Not so quick.

Reality is, the 991.2 and 718 are underperforming sales expectations. The turbo dream doesn't have buyers salivating.

The only thing selling with increases is the Macan. Get ready for the Panamera and Cayenne crossovers.
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Originally Posted by STG
Reality is, the 991.2 and 718 are underperforming sales expectations. The turbo dream doesn't have buyers salivating. .
First I've heard this. Our dealer can't keep a 991.2 in stock. Do you have any more info?
Old 01-27-2017, 03:42 PM
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First I've heard this. Our dealer can't keep a 991.2 in stock. Do you have any more info?
Look at year end PCNA sales #'s and talk to many dealers.

They just aren't ordering many to sit on lots. Mostly custom builds. PCNA has tightened up and doesn't want Panny or Cayenne situations.
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In the UK, the dealers can't get enough allocations of 911s and other models to meet demand. Availability limited sales numbers for some, last year.
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PAG has tightened up supply to avoid excess discounting and protect margins. That's all I have to offer.

911 sales down in 2016 vs 2015.

718's not moving either.
Old 01-27-2017, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by STG
PAG has tightened up supply to avoid excess discounting and protect margins. That's all I have to offer.

911 sales down in 2016 vs 2015.

718's not moving either.
Can confirm on 718, spoke to a SA in atl who told me people just don't purchase after a test drive, a few sold on pre-order and then nothing. I think the turbo move (at least to the 4-cyl. 718) will not to unnoticed.. you just can't pay almost $100k with options for a turbo four, doesn't make sense vs other options available.
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^To be candid; I hate the rear on the new 718. I think it is fugly. The car just does not look pretty any more. The lines do not flow right
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Originally Posted by STG
I emailed the guy and offered him $100,000.00 over MSRP and he declined. His response:

"I share your thoughts,, butttt it is one of one,, like I said in the ad. The 911 R there are 991 sold only to 918 buyers,, who gets the other ones,, and it is going for 3 time MSRP many have already sold for 600k,, the 918 ,, there are 918 of them and they are going for between 2 an 3 times over MSRP,,, this car there are only 235 world wide,, only 100 in North America ,, only 73 in the USA,, and!!!!!! Only ONE,, that is 1. 7 speed manual shift,,, now how rare is this,,, The Rennsport is selling for over 3 times sticker,,,, This car is more rare than any of those,,, so 3 times MSRP. Is a real deal,,, when it is gone,, you will. NEVER see another ,, because there is only one,, Thanks Gary"
This guys grammar kills me. Would it really be so hard to write in proper sentences with proper punctuation when asking 3x MSRP?
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well must have sold the link does not work anymore
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well must have sold the link does not work anymore
You'll sleep better tonight. It's still for sale. Link still active too.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
^To be candid; I hate the rear on the new 718. I think it is fugly. The car just does not look pretty any more. The lines do not flow right
i totally agree. was just thinking about that. its almost like they bent over backwards to add/integrate a panel for the PORSCHE letters. not feeling it at all. and the front especially sterile and lacking the porsche "quirk" imo. unfortunately this design language is being applied to all models. new GT3 fascia case in point.
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The ad for this car looks like it was written by WILLHOIT.
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There is a Black Manual one for sale right now for 141,000

I have no idea what this person is smoking

Edit - Confirmed to be PDK
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Porsche went turbo to improve mileage, according to Car and Driver the turbo 718 gets worse mileage than the NA car. Thanks liberals.


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