View Poll Results: Will your order your 991.2 GT3 with PDK-S or 6-speed manual transmission?
PDK-S
213
47.97%
6-speed manual
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52.03%
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Poll: 991.2 GT3 - PDK or Manual?
03-15-2017, 12:57 PM
#271
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03-15-2017, 02:11 PM
#273
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Manual for sure!
I have a 2016 RS in my garage right now and I miss the control of the timing and degree of clutch engagement and disengagement every time. I am not racing for money, so it's all about the involvement and enjoyment of the car for me.
04-27-2017, 06:09 PM
#274
I have owned a PDK 981S before, and now a GT4. Here are some of my thoughts
For track use:
PDK would definitely gives you faster lap time. In case of engagement, I don't think a car with PDK is less satisfying (at least in my case). The way I am thinking this: the focus/attention (engagement) I spend (get) doing manual shift. I can as well use that to feel other parts of the car, try to push more and explore other aspects of the car. I can't squeeze 100% from a GT car (I think this is the case for most of the folks), that means instead of doing manual shift, there is always something else I can spend the time on to get that extra "engagement".
On public road:
I do agree a manual would be more fun on the road. However, I don't enjoy the ride quality of my GT4 on public road in California at all. In fact, I think my GTI gives me more smiles on public roads. Maybe, for places with better road it is a option.
So for me, PDK is the one to have.
For track use:
PDK would definitely gives you faster lap time. In case of engagement, I don't think a car with PDK is less satisfying (at least in my case). The way I am thinking this: the focus/attention (engagement) I spend (get) doing manual shift. I can as well use that to feel other parts of the car, try to push more and explore other aspects of the car. I can't squeeze 100% from a GT car (I think this is the case for most of the folks), that means instead of doing manual shift, there is always something else I can spend the time on to get that extra "engagement".
On public road:
I do agree a manual would be more fun on the road. However, I don't enjoy the ride quality of my GT4 on public road in California at all. In fact, I think my GTI gives me more smiles on public roads. Maybe, for places with better road it is a option.
So for me, PDK is the one to have.
04-28-2017, 11:04 AM
#275
Instructor
This will be my only sports car and I do work hard as well. Well, not as hard as in residency and fellowship, that sucked!
But "its not the seconds in the day, it's how we use them", right?
The MT Ignition episode on the R borders on the erotic. In my wildest dreams I couldn't get an R. I am fortunate enough to have a September build .2 allocation, so I'm going as close to a 911R as I can. Manual/LWB/PCCB. No other frill.
With the reduction in sound insulation it may be "closer to the real thing" than people might think. Well, then there is also the 9k redline and midrange torque, but that's a plus!
But "its not the seconds in the day, it's how we use them", right?
The MT Ignition episode on the R borders on the erotic. In my wildest dreams I couldn't get an R. I am fortunate enough to have a September build .2 allocation, so I'm going as close to a 911R as I can. Manual/LWB/PCCB. No other frill.
With the reduction in sound insulation it may be "closer to the real thing" than people might think. Well, then there is also the 9k redline and midrange torque, but that's a plus!
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04-28-2017, 11:48 AM
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Here's a repost from another thread:
Just to give you guys some statistics.
Now that Manual option is open, I've been seeing a lot of confirmed V200 allocation builds.
Out of 17 allocations with V200 I've seen, 6 are ordered in PDK and 11 ordered in MT.
And no these are not selective allocations for target group like RL members etc. These are what a few dealers got and all their submitted ones.
That's more concrete numbers, but to add as a ball park estimation, about 70% of people who call asking about .2 GT3 allocation are requesting for MT transmission, whether they go the allocation or not, but it sort of reflects the confirmed V200 numbers.
Again, these are early on numbers with small sample size so it doesn't mean everything. A lot of the PDK orders are actually early builds that had no choice but to get PDK. On the other hand, more people who calling to get a car over half year before the car gets here are more enthusiasts, and many enthusiast have a higher tendency of choosing MT. So it goes both ways. Only time will tell.
Just to give you guys some statistics.
Now that Manual option is open, I've been seeing a lot of confirmed V200 allocation builds.
Out of 17 allocations with V200 I've seen, 6 are ordered in PDK and 11 ordered in MT.
And no these are not selective allocations for target group like RL members etc. These are what a few dealers got and all their submitted ones.
That's more concrete numbers, but to add as a ball park estimation, about 70% of people who call asking about .2 GT3 allocation are requesting for MT transmission, whether they go the allocation or not, but it sort of reflects the confirmed V200 numbers.
Again, these are early on numbers with small sample size so it doesn't mean everything. A lot of the PDK orders are actually early builds that had no choice but to get PDK. On the other hand, more people who calling to get a car over half year before the car gets here are more enthusiasts, and many enthusiast have a higher tendency of choosing MT. So it goes both ways. Only time will tell.
04-28-2017, 12:26 PM
#277
Race Director
Originally Posted by BCMgunner
This will be my only sports car and I do work hard as well. Well, not as hard as in residency and fellowship, that sucked!
But "its not the seconds in the day, it's how we use them", right?
The MT Ignition episode on the R boarders on the erotic. In my wildest dreams I couldn't get an R. I am fortunate enough to have a September build .2 allocation, so I'm going as close to a 911R as I can. Manual/LWB/PCCB. No other frill.
With the reduction in sound insulation it may be "closer to the real thing" than people might think. Well, then there is also the 9k redline and midrange torque, but that's a plus!
But "its not the seconds in the day, it's how we use them", right?
The MT Ignition episode on the R boarders on the erotic. In my wildest dreams I couldn't get an R. I am fortunate enough to have a September build .2 allocation, so I'm going as close to a 911R as I can. Manual/LWB/PCCB. No other frill.
With the reduction in sound insulation it may be "closer to the real thing" than people might think. Well, then there is also the 9k redline and midrange torque, but that's a plus!
04-28-2017, 12:38 PM
#278
Nordschleife Master
Originally Posted by chaosoul
Here's a repost from another thread:
Just to give you guys some statistics.
Now that Manual option is open, I've been seeing a lot of confirmed V200 allocation builds.
Out of 17 allocations with V200 I've seen, 6 are ordered in PDK and 11 ordered in MT.
And no these are not selective allocations for target group like RL members etc. These are what a few dealers got and all their submitted ones.
That's more concrete numbers, but to add as a ball park estimation, about 70% of people who call asking about .2 GT3 allocation are requesting for MT transmission, whether they go the allocation or not, but it sort of reflects the confirmed V200 numbers.
Again, these are early on numbers with small sample size so it doesn't mean everything. A lot of the PDK orders are actually early builds that had no choice but to get PDK. On the other hand, more people who calling to get a car over half year before the car gets here are more enthusiasts, and many enthusiast have a higher tendency of choosing MT. So it goes both ways. Only time will tell.
Just to give you guys some statistics.
Now that Manual option is open, I've been seeing a lot of confirmed V200 allocation builds.
Out of 17 allocations with V200 I've seen, 6 are ordered in PDK and 11 ordered in MT.
And no these are not selective allocations for target group like RL members etc. These are what a few dealers got and all their submitted ones.
That's more concrete numbers, but to add as a ball park estimation, about 70% of people who call asking about .2 GT3 allocation are requesting for MT transmission, whether they go the allocation or not, but it sort of reflects the confirmed V200 numbers.
Again, these are early on numbers with small sample size so it doesn't mean everything. A lot of the PDK orders are actually early builds that had no choice but to get PDK. On the other hand, more people who calling to get a car over half year before the car gets here are more enthusiasts, and many enthusiast have a higher tendency of choosing MT. So it goes both ways. Only time will tell.
Thanks.
04-28-2017, 01:02 PM
#279
Instructor
Don't put the R on a pedestal.. it's a perfect 911, in the sense that it offers all the tactical engagement that you would want. But I think your upcoming GT3.2 is going to offer almost exactly the same experience, but with an even stronger engine. It may not look quite as unique.. but you can have fun and modify it to look any way you want.
04-30-2017, 06:52 AM
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04-30-2017, 11:33 AM
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Here's a repost from another thread:
Just to give you guys some statistics.
Now that Manual option is open, I've been seeing a lot of confirmed V200 allocation builds.
Out of 17 allocations with V200 I've seen, 6 are ordered in PDK and 11 ordered in MT.
And no these are not selective allocations for target group like RL members etc. These are what a few dealers got and all their submitted ones.
That's more concrete numbers, but to add as a ball park estimation, about 70% of people who call asking about .2 GT3 allocation are requesting for MT transmission, whether they go the allocation or not, but it sort of reflects the confirmed V200 numbers.
Again, these are early on numbers with small sample size so it doesn't mean everything. A lot of the PDK orders are actually early builds that had no choice but to get PDK. On the other hand, more people who calling to get a car over half year before the car gets here are more enthusiasts, and many enthusiast have a higher tendency of choosing MT. So it goes both ways. Only time will tell.
Just to give you guys some statistics.
Now that Manual option is open, I've been seeing a lot of confirmed V200 allocation builds.
Out of 17 allocations with V200 I've seen, 6 are ordered in PDK and 11 ordered in MT.
And no these are not selective allocations for target group like RL members etc. These are what a few dealers got and all their submitted ones.
That's more concrete numbers, but to add as a ball park estimation, about 70% of people who call asking about .2 GT3 allocation are requesting for MT transmission, whether they go the allocation or not, but it sort of reflects the confirmed V200 numbers.
Again, these are early on numbers with small sample size so it doesn't mean everything. A lot of the PDK orders are actually early builds that had no choice but to get PDK. On the other hand, more people who calling to get a car over half year before the car gets here are more enthusiasts, and many enthusiast have a higher tendency of choosing MT. So it goes both ways. Only time will tell.
05-01-2017, 03:11 AM
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Nope.
However if Manual Transmission ratio to PDK becomes too big, Porsche may exercise a stop sale for the option for one of two reasons:
1. Shortage of supply of parts related to the manual due to unexpected demand.
2. MT have a much higher emission rate and lower mpg rating for EPA. The car is already getting gas guzzler tax. PAG and PCNA will want to balance back to ratio.
05-01-2017, 04:19 AM
#284
Nope.
However if Manual Transmission ratio to PDK becomes too big, Porsche may exercise a stop sale for the option for one of two reasons:
1. Shortage of supply of parts related to the manual due to unexpected demand.
2. MT have a much higher emission rate and lower mpg rating for EPA. The car is already getting gas guzzler tax. PAG and PCNA will want to balance back to ratio.
However if Manual Transmission ratio to PDK becomes too big, Porsche may exercise a stop sale for the option for one of two reasons:
1. Shortage of supply of parts related to the manual due to unexpected demand.
2. MT have a much higher emission rate and lower mpg rating for EPA. The car is already getting gas guzzler tax. PAG and PCNA will want to balance back to ratio.
05-01-2017, 04:59 AM
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