race7117

NO dynamic steering, I hated the feel with that option and drove it on the road not track, very progressive assist and much less feel. The regular steering is really not as bad as most reviewers say. I think it's a perception thing. a lot of guys say the Ferraris 458/488 are better. When you get in the car at a stand still, all cars with non hydraulic steering have a lot of "play" The RS I feel has the most feedback, The 458/488 spools up fast at low speed and gives good feedback. The 580-2 assists at low speeds like 10-15mph making parking the car much easier. On the track I never felt the steering assist at all and had really good feedback I think as good as the Ferraris but that low speed assist gives the perception that it isn't. Again a really fun car with a lot of potential, great engine I really liked it and wanted to buy one. I think lambo could make a really great special edition version of this car.I was worried about reliability but the all the companies had great things to say about it much better than the Ferraris and second only to the R8 and of course the Porsches.
funny thing: The Lambos have all their engines mounted slightly off center, they say with the drivetrain it allows it to be mounted lower for lower center of gravity. The R8 has the same off center alignment but everything in the engine bay is centered around the off center engine almost OCD like. In the Lambos the cross bars are centered around the car and chassis. Looking in the engine bay the Lambos are very clearly to be off center but the R8 you have to really look to tell that it had the same alignment

d00d

Thanks again race7117.
The off center engine in the R8/Huracan is so the drive shaft can pass from transmission along the side of the engine then to the front, as opposed to running it under the engine which would raise the engine and CG.
Of course they could correct that in the RWD version, but that would require different parts and associated costs.

race7117

I just thought it was funny that in the R8 they centered the crossbar to the engine and not the chassis! Weird.
I think you will love the car if you buy and if you take it to the track you will have a lot of fun very rewarding when you get it right. The Lambo traction/ stability control is extremely loose and lets you get very sideways but if you lose the rear end it ain't helping you. Really jealous if you pick one up

d00d

Maybe difference between Italian and Germanic sensibilities?
Back in love with the GT4 after weekend Dundon header install, but if that drug wears off it will be the 580-2 in Blue Cepheus Pearl (Mexico) or Grigio Telesto Pearl (Nardo), unless there's a GT4 RS with the GT3's engine (or a GT3 RSR).

TopspeedPT

Nice drifts

TopspeedPT

MerlinRS

Oh well, that's interesting!

TopspeedPT

Mr.JWW was dissapointed. Too much of a GT car. He's used to the LT.
He order one at Geneva tho...ouch.

ZAMIRZ

Steve Sutcliffe is saying that the Mclaren people are claiming (unofficially) it's faster than P1 on circuits where you don't need gobs of top-end.

C.J. Ichiban

Ok so some U.K. Nerds (I know Sam and he is a nerd) drove it on some slow *** roads and said it's too comfortable?

qbix

How do McLarens hold up around tracks? Are they ok to take them occasionally there? Any problems?

How are the rear pads doing without the slip diff? Compared to Porsche GT3 how much more expensive it is to maintain them? Ferrari gives for example 7 years free maintenance...

How would you compare 720s against 488GTB? I would love to own F car at one point but all that tech in McLarens plus their carbon construction and performance makes me lean towards that brand. Less all that BS with VIPs when willing to order Ferrari. And I believe Ferrari is a bit overestimating their power output and lightness which to me is a bit disgraceful.

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qbix

All these vloggers' opinions are horse sh$t as their driving skills are.

qbix

I think Jethro, Chris and Steve are all very good drivers. Although Chris is now a bit restricted by BBC

Guest89

I am by no means a fan of the "vlogger" content or lifestyle (and I'm in the same age range as these guys - 28 - I'm surely they really perturb older people), but I was perusing for videos yesterday just after the embargo broke and came across Supercars of London's video with the sensational headline of his "honest review," so I watched it.

Quite refreshing, actually.

On the one hand, you have established journalists - whether employed by a certain magazine/channel or freelance - who gush over the car (Steve Sutcliffe, Autocar videos, etc.; also see the initial print pieces) and trip over themselves to praise every aspect. Their continuing ability to be invited to these types of events (ie, an all expenses paid trip to Rome to drive a new McLaren) is dependent on them conveying favorable and "on-brand" impressions to their audiences. No invite to events = no relevance = no work. Furthermore, while the lifestyle and trips are undeniably lavish, they aren't fungible, and the pay that the industry commands rarely facilitates ownership of the hottest cars over which they fawn. (I am good friends with many people in this line of work, both in the US and abroad).

Meanwhile, you have a group of friends who are not established "journalists," by any means. However, they have (1) the requisite funds (through whatever means - inheritance, YouTube riches, etc.) to purchase the cars and (2) an audience that provides McLaren additional exposure to a youthful demographic.

The actual, legitimate customers for the car (confirmed and potential) expressed reservations about spending $300K+ USD on the car. But I bet McLaren still invites them back.