Originally Posted by race7117

I went down to Vegas and LA for track experience, Colorado and Northern California for on road experience. Really spent some time with the cars, was really hoping to get some variety in my ownership experience. Was hoping to love the Huracan 580-2, the V10 is a great engine and I like the mid engine layout. The Huracan GT race car is super fun but a real handful. The road car is just that, a great road car that everyone will stare at, surprisingly reliable according to the staff. On track it was really fun and could be rewarding when you get it right but the front end understeer was still very prominent. Supercar Yes Trackcar, no. The 488 really had to get the steering wheel straight to get the most out of the turbos soft car much more road focused than the 458. The 488 is faster but felt more artificial less sweet than the NA cars even the Huracan, I imagine the Speciale would be fantastic competition for the RS but double the price even with markups. I admit my seat time in 991s is extensive so I may just have an internal bias, but I really tried to love the other cars esp the 458. Driving back to back really shows how great the RS is given the price tag, and what people are willing to pay for

Originally Posted by kfmcmahon

not so bad comparatively ...........458 just back from dealer last night....



F-it, I have too many loved ones die young, so I'll spend what it takes...

Originally Posted by IRguy

Well, my 650s service was $6,800 and the car came back with the CEL on!!!
By the way the CEL is still unresolved. I can get rid of it with the Innova 6160e reader but no P number displayed so I do not know what is exactly going on with the car.

Originally Posted by race7117

I went down to Vegas and LA for track experience, Colorado and Northern California for on road experience. Really spent some time with the cars, was really hoping to get some variety in my ownership experience. Was hoping to love the Huracan 580-2, the V10 is a great engine and I like the mid engine layout. The Huracan GT race car is super fun but a real handful. The road car is just that, a great road car that everyone will stare at, surprisingly reliable according to the staff. On track it was really fun and could be rewarding when you get it right but the front end understeer was still very prominent. Supercar Yes Trackcar, no. The 488 really had to get the steering wheel straight to get the most out of the turbos soft car much more road focused than the 458. The 488 is faster but felt more artificial less sweet than the NA cars even the Huracan, I imagine the Speciale would be fantastic competition for the RS but double the price even with markups. I admit my seat time in 991s is extensive so I may just have an internal bias, but I really tried to love the other cars esp the 458. Driving back to back really shows how great the RS is given the price tag, and what people are willing to pay for

Originally Posted by IRguy

Well, my 650s service was $6,800 and the car came back with the CEL on!!!
By the way the CEL is still unresolved. I can get rid of it with the Innova 6160e reader but no P number displayed so I do not know what is exactly going on with the car.

Originally Posted by 1pvr

$173 for two wiper blades!

Originally Posted by IRguy

Well, my 650s service was $6,800 and the car came back with the CEL on!!!
By the way the CEL is still unresolved. I can get rid of it with the Innova 6160e reader but no P number displayed so I do not know what is exactly going on with the car.

Originally Posted by d00d

The RWD 580-2 still understeers, do you recall what tires it had?

Originally Posted by race7117

Yea the 570s I drove had a lot of electrical glitches. Got in the car and the windows were down about a half inch. couldn't start the car or use anything, seat adjustment, radio, etc after waiting about 3-4 minutes the windows would roll up on their own and then I could start the car and actually use everything. I like the idea of a McLaren car but I think they are still a bit of a ways away

Originally Posted by race7117

Great question, I believe they were pirelli p-zeros but I could be wrong on that. All the cars were on street tires except the Huracan GT race car which had slicks. The 580-2 had a lighter front end than the 610-4 as well as much less understeer but you could still feel it in the higher speed corners. The 580-2 was easy to correct with the throttle,but you could still feel the "built in" understeer.

Originally Posted by neanicu

P0000 codes are generic DTCs and manufacturers are required to adhere to the OBD2 emission standard system in the US. But manufacturers are very smart to not give the tiniest bit of information more than the minimum required by law and many aftermarket " code readers " are not capable to translate scan data accurately. The best tool to use is the factory scan tool,but those cost between 20 and 50 grand,plus updates on new models are about 10K a year.
I have several,but lately I'm playing with a Chinese clone tablet and I'm impressed! Still pretty expensive for the " home mechanic ".
If anyone in the NYC area wants to find out what's going on with their car,I would love to play with a Ferrari or Mac.

Originally Posted by IRguy

Unfortunately I am far away from NYC now. The interesting thing is, I got a P code before, something about the coolant and cams shaft. I have it somewhere. Then deleted the code - instructed by Chicago Maclaren - then the CEL came back after about 40min of driving. All this after 2 weeks in service for regular maintenance and coolant leak. According to my contact the CEL was not on when the car left Chicago, but when it rolled out of the trailer it was already on.
I still like the car, but my enthusiasm is somewhat tempered by these unresolved issues.