ILLCOMM

I am working on the alignment situation now. Sourcing shims to get to -3 or -4 in front (maybe -3 in back) (GT4 car is -4/-3 front/rear) which I hope will help the Trofeo's both perform better and wear more evenly.

If that doesn't feel like enough (subjective obviously) next step would be getting more rubber under car - something like 235 our 245 up front and 305 in rear. Will probably require new wheels which is not an expenditure I want to make if I don't have to. I have heard that width is not problem with 600LT it's height, so will have to keep OD pretty static. Finspeed would be my solution if I head down this route.

Finally, I suppose it might be possible to get the GT4 or Sprint car wing on the 600LT which would be a major downforce help, but not sure how that might unbalance the car or be affected by the rear exit exhaust...

shewu

No interest in a proper racecar anytime soon?

ILLCOMM

Yes, this is the obvious solution. I just don't have the whole trailer/tow car/logistical thing figured out and not excited about doing so. I like driving the car on the street to/from the track.

eXpensiveGears

Sounds good, look forward to your progress with this platform.

KOTYKB

The 2017 570s has really caught my attention lately. I've seen some cars with a few thousand miles, stickers around $225k, willing to sell for $160k. Looking at non-2016 570s vs. a 991.2 GT3 is quite the toss up. The big hang up for me with a used 570s is that they'll be going out of their OEM warranty in 2020, the extended maintenance package is $4500/year which isn't cheap. Owning a Porsche GT car out of maintenance isn't a huge worry but with McLaren its a must.

kyrocks

Definitely get a warranty with the McLaren. I’ve had friends who listened to me and saved themselves over $20k a few times.
I had a 570S for almost 2 years. Great to look at and even daily drive if you must. Sound is meh, turbo lag is there, and very twitchy at the limit on track. It was a fun car though even if it was not very visceral.

KOTYKB

High flow downpipes help a lot with the sound and don't require a tune. With a Porsche I'm fine installing Dundon headers, on McLaren, I wouldn't mess with the ECU as it seems like they would use any justification to reject a warranty claim.

Gary(SF)

I just extended the warranty on my 2016 570S a few months ago, and it was $3250. I wouldn't necessarily avoid the 2016 model year, I have an early car (#226) and it has been rock solid over the 12k miles I've driven it. But yeah I still bought the warranty extension. Just did a track day, and I disagree with the "twitchy" comment in another post. It's not twitchy, it just has a bit of an imbalance between grip and power. Ultimate grip is not huge because of the skinny tires, but it's got a ton of power, which seems to highlight the modest grip. Really doesn't deserve a "twitchy" label, though, it's completely honest at the limit, it's just a relatively low limit. Don't buy the 570S as a track weapon, it's simply not designed for that, but it is a lot of fun for the occasional track day as long as you don't expect too much from the grip department. Trofeo R's would help, but Corsas are fine for 1 or 2 track days a year without the high wear compromises the Trofeos bring. And honestly I have never thought the often-mentioned lag was a problem at all, once you learn how to drive it. It has a super quick gearbox, just make sure you are in the right gear and lag is simply a non-issue.

ILLCOMM

I think the 600LT Spider is the last model for the current Sport Series design. Keep that in mind when considering a 570. Unlike the 991 -> 992 there is no announcement of info on the next gen 570 but there's a decent bet it'll adopt the design language of the 720. Depending on your POV that might move 570 prices materially. And that announcement can't be too far off.

ipse dixit

Between the 570 and the 1.2 GT3, there's no comparison. Would take the Porsche every single day, even if there is a significant price difference.

I'm not a Mac hater, in fact, I think the 720S is dream of a car, but the 570 is a just a **** poor example of the Mac line. Sort of like buying the 718 Cayman. You get the Porsche name, and styling, but you get a really subpar product in comparison to everything else on the product line, esp. with that four pot turbo engine in the 718.

ILLCOMM

There are plenty of reasons to prefer the GT3 over the 570s.

This take is probably the worst version of anything you could come up with. Awful take.

Gary(SF)

Wow, could not disagree more emphatically. I've owned a ton of Porsches and have driven the 1.2 GT3 extensively. The 570S in any street application is the better/more fun/faster car in every way. Looks are subjective, but to me the 570S looks like a supercar and the GT3 looks like a million other Porsches that you see every day. If you are a big track guy, I'd say GT3 for sure, but for the street/canyon/back roads in my opinion it's not even all that close.

shewu

The next Sport Series car is rumored to have a TT V6 + hybrid, so the TT V8 would remain unique to the 570S/GT.

KOTYKB

Don't get me wrong, I fully plan on buying the 718 GT4 but if the engine disappoints I'll likely look at a 991.2 GT3. After driving a friend's 570s, I thought it was a really exciting car to drive has peaked my attention.

RyanDDWPartners

I lapped a 600LT and 720S at our new track. The 600LT was VERY impressive. The 720S had regular Pirelli tires, worn out and not even Corsas. If it had Corsas it would have been much quicker. The 600LT is one of the best cars I’ve driven on a track. Here are two videos of each. Both videos are split in car and outside the cars.


I bettered that lap record with a 1.44.2. Here’s the 720S on junk tires