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Old 03-05-2019, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FLGT View Post
My friend had one at COTA last weekend, and loved it. Said it was amazing. Also said they are delivered somewhat 'detuned' for official GT4 class racing, to something like 420 or 450hp.
I would think that with a 'conservative' re-tune to 550-600HP, it would be even more unreal.
McLaren does sell a cheater ECU ("sprint upgrade") to un-detune the engine back to the street car spec. Both GT4s at McLaren SF are equipped with both the GT4 and the Sprint ECUs.

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They need to take people for demo rides- it's
2-5 seconds a lap faster than a GT3RS depending on the track
Not really a great comparison, but o​​​​​​ut of curiosity, how does the 570S GT4 feel compared to the 600LT?
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Old 03-05-2019, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by sansan View Post
One pic I took during delivery.


Porsche/Mclaren PHL warehouse? LOVE IT!
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Old 03-05-2019, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sansan View Post
One pic I took during delivery.

not a fan of purple, but that spec looks amazing.
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Old 03-05-2019, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sechsgang View Post
Porsche/Mclaren PHL warehouse? LOVE IT!
Suburban Mclaren in Michigan
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Old 03-05-2019, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1 View Post
OT, but hard to see how these guys make any money with (optimistically) calculated 4% profit margin. That's practically breaking even without even considering unknown costs/problems:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7aVI4ygYL0
is there any similar video around GT3 RUNING COSTS?
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Old 03-05-2019, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by E92 M View Post
not a fan of purple, but that spec looks amazing.
Color kind of surprised me too. It’s MSO Ceramic Gray. Doesn’t look anything like the configurator. But I like it in person. I wanted something that would contrast the carbon fiber.
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Old 03-05-2019, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sansan View Post

Suburban Mclaren in Michigan

Ah, thats funny, they have a Urus exactly like that and the same floor color haha, I was like maybe its the same place 😂
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Old 03-05-2019, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1 View Post
OT, but hard to see how these guys make any money with (optimistically) calculated 4% profit margin. That's practically breaking even without even considering unknown costs/problems
I, as they say, did the math. I am pretty sure that video is a marketing material and as such should be taken skeptically. There are a lot of things you can pick at here, like zero chance their routine oil changes cost what they estimate. Obviously, the pad prices are of interest and I find it hard to believe that pads > 50% the cost of brand new carbon ceramic discs. 20 euro per lap in fuel is simply not right - probably closer to 10. The employee and license line is not broken down so no way to understand what they've stuffed in there. Same with "miscellaneous." It appears they are depreciating the car by 36,000 euros each season. I think a 720s costs ~240k euros? Question is how much will their taxi be worth when they retire it in X years? So, in 3 years of service will it be worth 132k euros? Less or more? You could make the case they they've been conservative here.

This is certainly not a business where anyone is going to get rich quickly. But, I do think this video is also a bit of a sandbag to justify the 299 euro per lap price. That said, the market will dictate what they can charge as there is no monopoly on being a ring taxi. And for someone who has no seat experience in a car equivalent to the 720s, 26kms around the Ring in that car will be a lifetime memory which probably justifies the cost.




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Old 03-05-2019, 01:59 PM
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Thanks for posting. This is another reason why resale value of McLaren is terrible. While they release newer and better models, it at the same time crushes the value of previous model.

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Old 03-05-2019, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ILLCOMM View Post
So, in 3 years of service will it be worth 132k euros? Less or more? You could make the case they they've been conservative here.
Hmm, pay 132k eur for a 720s with 86,000 (1100x3x26km) hard driven track km's? I wouldn't -- not even close.

Thanks for doing the numbers. That 11k eur annual profit per car is still so tight and it assumes an average of 1100/172 = 6.4 laps a day for every day that the N-ring is open.
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Old 03-05-2019, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GT3RS-Fan1 View Post
Thanks for posting. This is another reason why resale value of McLaren is terrible. While they release newer and better models, it at the same time crushes the value of previous model.

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This will be a 1.5 million dollar car. has nothing to do with the current sports and super series cars.

edit- I stand corrected. This will be a new model between 570 and 720.
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Old 03-05-2019, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GT3RS-Fan1 View Post
This is another reason why resale value of McLaren is terrible. While they release newer and better models
I mean, Porsche doesn't have too many models...

911
911 S
911 Cab
911 S Cab
911 4
911 4S
911 4 Cab
911 4S Cab
911 T
911 Targa 4
911 Targa 4S
911 GTS
911 Turbo
911 Turbo S
911 Turbo Cab
911 Turbo Cab S
911 GT3
911 GT3 Touring
911 GT3 RS
911 GT3 RS Touring
911 GT2 RS
911 R

718 Cayman
718 Cayman S
718 Boxter
718 Boxter S
718 Cayman GTS
718 Boxter GTS
718 Spyder

Panamera
Panamera 4
Panamera 4 Sport Turismo
Panamera 4 Executive
Panamera 4S
Panamera 4S Sport Turismo
Panamera 4S Executive
Panamera GTS
Panamera GTS Sport Turismo
Panamera Turbo
Panamera Turbo Sport Turismo
Panamera Turbo Executive
Panamera 4 E-Hybrid
Panamera 4 E-Hybrid Sport Turismo
Panamera 4 E-Hybrid Executive
Panamera Turbio S E-Hybrid
Panamera Turbio S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo
Panamera Turbio S E-Hybrid Executive

I am too tired of typing to enumerate the SUVs.

Oh yeah and these cars update on 3.5 year cycles so the .1's depreciate the second the first .2 is spied in camo with higher displacement engine, wider hips, Weissach, or whatever else gets cooked up. The 991.2 GT3 RS that *just* sold, in some cases with $50k ADM, will be outshined by the 992s in months, not decades or something else absurd.

So please, save us all the lazy take on McLaren and new models. The idea they can't slot a GT car into their lineup is just stupid.
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Old 03-05-2019, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Yippiekiaye View Post


This will be a 1.5 million dollar car. has nothing to do with the current sports and super series cars.

edit- I stand corrected. This will be a new model between 570 and 720.
Are you sure you should have corrected yourself?

Flewitt also said the new car will be "a unique, tailored model" that won't fit into McLaren's current model tiers, which consists of Sports Series (570S/570GT and 600LT), Super Series (720S), and Ultimate Series (Senna and Speedtail).
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Old 03-05-2019, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sechsgang View Post
Porsche/Mclaren PHL warehouse? LOVE IT!
Wait there's a McLaren dealer here in Metro Detroit now? Never knew that.
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