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Old 01-10-2017, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bronson7 View Post
Let's see where they are in 5-10 years. Let's all remember where the economy has been in the last few years...
Good point. It will also be interesting to see how things change with Ron Dennis out. I do hope they stick with the strictly sports car philosophy...
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
It'd be nice if they came out with an entry level McLaren priced around $200k for folks that want to get our feet wet with the brand.
Isn't the 570 exactly that?
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And there is the 540c, but not in the US (yet).
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Yours? If so awesome car. Congrats
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3 View Post
It'd be nice if they came out with an entry level McLaren priced around $200k for folks that want to get our feet wet with the brand.
2017 570S MSRP is $188k.
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3 View Post
It'd be nice if they came out with an entry level McLaren priced around $200k for folks that want to get our feet wet with the brand.
Here ya go.

http://motorcarsofgeorgia.com/used-m...lanta-ga-1912c
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Maverick787 View Post

I have driven the 650S, and the brakes are crap when stopping hard at 190mph. Same run in a Turbo S the brakes are rock solid and I felt safe vs. the MAC getting loose in the back during braking. The Porsche never over heated launch after launch like the MAC so they have some durability issues to solve, but they are super fast! They do make it easy to order cars, and paint them any color you like though? Almost purchased, but would never buy new due to the depreciation hit which is terrible.
so, where did you stop hard from 190mph? I'm very interested in that one. I've only seen 180mph in my P1 on a track so imagining hitting 190mph in any car let alone a 650S must mean you were on an airport runway of some sort...?
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Originally Posted by chillindrdude View Post
are 570s going for msrp? or more/less?
for a true data point, regardless of what the other posters chime in with:

my store sold 44 McLarens in 9 months last year. of the 570's, we only discounted a few of them (based on age) and have sold a lot of our demo cars with 1000-2000 miles for both 650S and 570s to different groups of people...what I notice:


* "Mistreated Customer" is the TOP linearity between all buyers that we take from Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo, etc. A lot of them have given up on those local stores and end up with us.

* " something more custom, more exotic and 'not a lambo'" is another comment we get a lot from people

* I'd say 50% of our McLaren buyers are either GT3 owners or stepping up from GT3 /RS cars into a McLaren.

* focused on performance, and not status- we don't get drug dealer club promoter types nor do we get the flashy "business leasers" that I see at BMW, Mercedes and some of those brands. Generally our customers are relatively established, 45-55 yr old guys that LOVE driving and putting miles on their cars.
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban View Post
for a true data point, regardless of what the other posters chime in with:

my store sold 44 McLarens in 9 months last year. of the 570's, we only discounted a few of them (based on age) and have sold a lot of our demo cars with 1000-2000 miles for both 650S and 570s to different groups of people...what I notice:


* "Mistreated Customer" is the TOP linearity between all buyers that we take from Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo, etc. A lot of them have given up on those local stores and end up with us.

* " something more custom, more exotic and 'not a lambo'" is another comment we get a lot from people

* I'd say 50% of our McLaren buyers are either GT3 owners or stepping up from GT3 /RS cars into a McLaren.

* focused on performance, and not status- we don't get drug dealer club promoter types nor do we get the flashy "business leasers" that I see at BMW, Mercedes and some of those brands. Generally our customers are relatively established, 45-55 yr old guys that LOVE driving and putting miles on their cars.
Is Gina still working for you?
I almost bought one from your store... I would be interested in a used 570 s
you guys have any? I checked your site out, didn't see anything but one at 203K.
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban View Post
so, where did you stop hard from 190mph? I'm very interested in that one. I've only seen 180mph in my P1 on a track so imagining hitting 190mph in any car let alone a 650S must mean you were on an airport runway of some sort...?
Hope it uploades yes an airfield over 13k feel long.
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Originally Posted by Maverick787 View Post

I have driven the 650S, and the brakes are crap when stopping hard at 190mph. Same run in a Turbo S the brakes are rock solid and I felt safe vs. the MAC getting loose in the back during braking. The Porsche never over heated launch after launch like the MAC so they have some durability issues to solve, but they are super fast! They do make it easy to order cars, and paint them any color you like though? Almost purchased, but would never buy new due to the depreciation hit which is terrible.
Fully agree with this.
Whist the 650 and LT brakes work fine from a stopping distance prospective. The are not up to the same level as the ceramic coated discs that Porsche have used from Aug 13, as far as sustained track use is concerned. Also in UK on Macs we have to pay 800.00 Inc Tax for a post and pre track day inspection in order to remain under warranty whist on track.
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I like where McLaren is going and picked up a 570S - plan on placing a deposit on a P14/720S this week. There weren't a lot of dealer discounts being offered.

Sure the jump between models hurts resale, but I would rather be picking up a new car that's a leap forward than a small step.
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Sure the jump between models hurts resale, but I would rather be picking up a new car that's a leap forward than a small step.
My thoughts exactly.
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Old 01-10-2017, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Apolo1 View Post
Fully agree with this.
Whist the 650 and LT brakes work fine from a stopping distance prospective. The are not up to the same level as the ceramic coated discs that Porsche have used from Aug 13, as far as sustained track use is concerned. Also in UK on Macs we have to pay 800.00 Inc Tax for a post and pre track day inspection in order to remain under warranty whist on track.
if you go a little longer in between inspections and track days you can do 2-3 track days in between inspections...
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban View Post
* I'd say 50% of our McLaren buyers are either GT3 owners or stepping up from GT3 /RS cars into a McLaren.
Interesting, CJ. Sounds like Porsche is putting its best foot forward with the next GT2 RS (from some of the impressive rumors) in an effort to keep some of these customers from jumping ship. Porsche hasn't really had something that can run with a 675 as well as the 2RS may (but 720 on the way also)...
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