McLaren Success
12-22-2018, 07:18 PM
#2791
You guys are amazing. Touting McClaren’s on a Porsche forum. CJ, I suspect most people who bought RS’s paid little or no ADM on them. Most went to a dealers best customers at MSRP. Also a 488 is not wobbly. I own one and have a bunch of track experience. I personally wouldn’t touch a McClaren with a 10 pole. To each their own.
12-22-2018, 08:45 PM
#2794
12-22-2018, 09:03 PM
#2796
Originally Posted by Yippiekiaye
It’s a good post by you but it doesn’t answer my question. I was hoping for a link to a car that’s few months old that’s 100k off msrp. Since most macs are in the 350k range new, that would be a 250k car msrp.
im dead serious. Please provide a link as it would be a good buy at that price.
Thx
im dead serious. Please provide a link as it would be a good buy at that price.
Thx
12-22-2018, 09:13 PM
#2797
so now you are hoping that prices come to where you said they already are. In other words, there is no car that is 100k below msrp and a few months old and you just made it up.. Ok got it. Thx.
lf I do decide to sell, I’ll let you know for sure. But I’m enjoying my ride a tad too much at the moment so doubtful I’m selling the car anytime soon but hey, you never know. Just make sure you have funds ready to for an easy transaction as I’ll have title in hand to transfer.
cheers and enjoy your day.
lf I do decide to sell, I’ll let you know for sure. But I’m enjoying my ride a tad too much at the moment so doubtful I’m selling the car anytime soon but hey, you never know. Just make sure you have funds ready to for an easy transaction as I’ll have title in hand to transfer.
cheers and enjoy your day.
12-22-2018, 09:30 PM
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Maybe Mac just has a better lease deal - seems like they'd be the opposite way around (when compared to Porsche). Although I suspect a 600LT will hold value better than almost any run of the mill Macs that have come before (read 650S, 12C, etc.)
12-22-2018, 09:35 PM
#2799
Originally Posted by Yippiekiaye
so now you are hoping that prices come to where you said they already are. In other words, there is no car that is 100k below msrp and a few months old and you just made it up.. Ok got it. Thx.
lf I do decide to sell, I’ll let you know for sure. But I’m enjoying my ride a tad too much at the moment so doubtful I’m selling the car anytime soon but hey, you never know. Just make sure you have funds ready to for an easy transaction as I’ll have title in hand to transfer.
cheers and enjoy your day.
lf I do decide to sell, I’ll let you know for sure. But I’m enjoying my ride a tad too much at the moment so doubtful I’m selling the car anytime soon but hey, you never know. Just make sure you have funds ready to for an easy transaction as I’ll have title in hand to transfer.
cheers and enjoy your day.
12-22-2018, 09:36 PM
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12-22-2018, 10:03 PM
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Porsche lease is just a bad deal then. If you buy a 2019 Turbo S at $200K, you cant tell me it will be "worth" $100K in 3 years. Even 2014's aren't that low.
Maybe Mac just has a better lease deal - seems like they'd be the opposite way around (when compared to Porsche). Although I suspect a 600LT will hold value better than almost any run of the mill Macs that have come before (read 650S, 12C, etc.)
Maybe Mac just has a better lease deal - seems like they'd be the opposite way around (when compared to Porsche). Although I suspect a 600LT will hold value better than almost any run of the mill Macs that have come before (read 650S, 12C, etc.)
McLaren, Ferrari, Lambo, Rolls, Bentley, Aston Martin all have cars that have base prices around/ over 300k and end up into CGT territory (meaning 500-600k-700k with exception of Bentley who top out around 450) eventually for special editions or whatever.
There is heavy conversation with all manufacturers when it comes down to Content, BASE pricing, financing, etc - with financing and leasing being such a heavy factor- companies like McLaren are better off spending on getting best banking relationships vs getting a superbowl advert.
12-22-2018, 10:07 PM
#2802
Drifting
Why do you assume there is animosity when I’m simply making an observation. The people that tend to complain the most about depreciation are the ones that are likely shopping for cars out of their means.
hyperbolic numbers such as 100k a year in losses are simply distractions to change the subject. 720 is an 18 month old car and you are seeing 10-20% depreciation numbers which is in line with most cars.
Not a single Mclaren owner I know (and I’ve gotten to know plenty) cares about it. It’s the cost of doing business. Between my cars I’ve lost 6 figures more than likely. It is what it is. I’m on vacation with family overseas. That’s money I’ll hever get back but memories for a lifetime. Everything I get in one of my cars I have a mini vacation.
Ive said it before and I’ll say it again- All these cars depreciate. You will lose money on them. If that bothers you simply don’t purchase. But we don’t need to hear over and over again made up numbers to try to make a point.
Cheers.
The have since brought the price UP to $242k:
https://www.selectluxury.com/VDP-201...LT--c-2593.htm
Over $30/mile in depreciation alone.
I smoked a cigar today with a friend and his father, who is worth well into 9 figures. He has a 991 C4 Cab -next planned purchase is a Subaru.
12-22-2018, 10:10 PM
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Seems like Mac bashers all gravitate to depreciation and " i heard they are unreliable". Then looks are subjective. However, i happen to like the 720S and definitely the 600LT. The 720S is amazing and its crazy fast and somehow "liveable". I feel that in the more exotic department and slightly harder cars, Mac 600LT and Lambo (Performante) would be at the top of my list. I dont feel the GT3RS is a competitor. Thats not a knock. Its a small notch down. Maybe GT3/RS is more reliable, easier to track, hold its value, not as "flashy". So its more affordable (outlay and running costs to include depreciation) and more under the radar. But if you want a step up/ exotic - you have to pay to play. Dont play if it will affect your lifestyle or if you cant afford it (some depreciation). Just like Fastmd says. If you can afford it (like private travel) - then its definitely the way to go. If you start to try and justify the expense vs business class, then you really cant play. BTW, i am nowhere close to affording private travel - so i would be the one basing it, just like others here are bashing Mac's for depreciation. 
I am really drawn to the 600LT but have a similar car for now. In a year or two when the ADD kicks in, i would consider a 600LT or a GT3/RS to replace the Perf.
I am really drawn to the 600LT but have a similar car for now. In a year or two when the ADD kicks in, i would consider a 600LT or a GT3/RS to replace the Perf.
12-22-2018, 10:37 PM
#2804
I didn’t quote any depreciation figures without substantiation; I posted a 675LT recently with a $401k sticker that was sitting at a dealer in Atlanta asking $239k with 48XX miles.
The have since brought the price UP to $242k:
https://www.selectluxury.com/VDP-201...LT--c-2593.htm
Over $30/mile in depreciation alone.
I smoked a cigar today with a friend and his father, who is worth well into 9 figures. He has a 991 C4 Cab -next planned purchase is a Subaru.
But it seems you and others are on a mission to save us from ourselves for some reason. I’m a big boy- I know what I paid for the car and I know what I’ll get when I sell it.
I’m glad you enjoyed the cigar with your friends father. I just flew private plane across the country with a buddy of mine who sold 3 companies and is also worth 9 figures. He has a gt3, 488 spider and several other cars.
im not sure the point you are trying to make. People spend money on things they want. Many people without means love cars. Plenty of billionaires out there who could give a rats *** about what car they drive. Sam Walton drive a pick up truck.
my suggestion to you and Honda boy is to start a new thread on cars that depreciate and the financially folly of those that buy them. Let the rest of us discuss everything else about the cars we enjoy and drive other than the cost.
cheers.
12-22-2018, 11:05 PM
#2805
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Seems like Mac bashers all gravitate to depreciation and " i heard they are unreliable". Then looks are subjective. However, i happen to like the 720S and definitely the 600LT. The 720S is amazing and its crazy fast and somehow "liveable". I feel that in the more exotic department and slightly harder cars, Mac 600LT and Lambo (Performante) would be at the top of my list. I dont feel the GT3RS is a competitor. Thats not a knock. Its a small notch down. Maybe GT3/RS is more reliable, easier to track, hold its value, not as "flashy". So its more affordable (outlay and running costs to include depreciation) and more under the radar. But if you want a step up/ exotic - you have to pay to play. Dont play if it will affect your lifestyle or if you cant afford it (some depreciation). Just like Fastmd says. If you can afford it (like private travel) - then its definitely the way to go. If you start to try and justify the expense vs business class, then you really cant play. BTW, i am nowhere close to affording private travel - so i would be the one basing it, just like others here are bashing Mac's for depreciation.
I am really drawn to the 600LT but have a similar car for now. In a year or two when the ADD kicks in, i would consider a 600LT or a GT3/RS to replace the Perf.
I am really drawn to the 600LT but have a similar car for now. In a year or two when the ADD kicks in, i would consider a 600LT or a GT3/RS to replace the Perf.
The Mac is cool. Yes. However, a Porsche is a Porsche is a Porsche and yes.. an RS is an RS. Further the RS has more than enough presence to match the LT in my eyes. Easy.
