McLaren Success
09-08-2018, 08:25 PM
#2176
Great write up on the McLaren's vs the Porsche's CJ.
I was reading it on mobile - didn't see the author but in 2 paragraphs knew
there's only 1 guy on RL who could write this detailed comparison of these cars.
I was reading it on mobile - didn't see the author but in 2 paragraphs knew
there's only 1 guy on RL who could write this detailed comparison of these cars.
09-08-2018, 08:31 PM
#2177
Senna is a race car. That's it. The downforce and power and lightness together means the car can brake 150-200 yards later than most cars into every corner. In the hands of anyone ballsy enough, in ideal conditions it will do IMSA RACE CAR laptimes or even a few seconds better. It's a full on GT3/ GTD race car on trofeos. Of course, this is why it's a 1M plus options car. No slicks needed. Just fresh tires that you will destroy very quickly.
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There is no way the McSenna is doing laptimes anywhere near the slowest of those 3 classes (GT3) quite simply as it does not have slick tyres.
09-08-2018, 08:45 PM
#2179
+1, great write-up. I enjoyed every last word. I hope some day I can at least enjoy one of these babies, to have one in the garage would be a dream come true.
09-08-2018, 08:50 PM
#2180
Come again? I'm not so clued up on US sports car racing but a quick check on the website suggests IMSA race cars consist of basically LMP2, GTE and GT3 cars.
There is no way the McSenna is doing laptimes anywhere near the slowest of those 3 classes (GT3) quite simply as it does not have slick tyres.
https://www.imsa.com/news/092018/wea...riday-notebook
GTLM points leaders and defending champions Jan Magnussen and Antonio Garcia were third Friday n the No. 3 Corvette Racing Chevrolet Corvette C7.R. Magnussen posted a best lap of 1:23.605
For good measure, Bergmeister was quickest of the day Friday in GTD practice at WeatherTech Raceway, posting a best lap of one minute, 25.148 seconds (94.620 mph).
For good measure, Bergmeister was quickest of the day Friday in GTD practice at WeatherTech Raceway, posting a best lap of one minute, 25.148 seconds (94.620 mph).
We already know that 1 Senna owner, a DE level driver has done a 1:32 there. 1:25 seems very possible.
09-08-2018, 08:56 PM
#2181
As it happens, IMSA is running at LS this weekend.
https://www.imsa.com/news/092018/wea...riday-notebook
So you are saying there's no way a street tire Senna will do laps between 1:24-1:28 at LS?
We already know that 1 Senna owner, a DE level driver has done a 1:32 there. 1:25 seems very possible.
https://www.imsa.com/news/092018/wea...riday-notebook
So you are saying there's no way a street tire Senna will do laps between 1:24-1:28 at LS?
We already know that 1 Senna owner, a DE level driver has done a 1:32 there. 1:25 seems very possible.
He was doing consistent 1:33 lap times and did a 1:32.5 lap time during the speedsf challenge. It was a 90 db day and on the 132.5 lap he did get black flagged for sound. However, he was just over the limit and was up two higher gears then he needs to be and partial lift (this method affects lap time by 2 seconds). He also stopped accelerating about 30 yards before start/finish once he saw the meatball flag.
According to my coach who was in senna; the driver Philip himself can do 1:29 lap time if there is no manipulation for sound and he fully believes with a pro that the car can do a 1:27.
He also coached me in 720s and also drove it. He is of the opinion that 720s is a 1:29 lap time car at Laguna.'
09-08-2018, 09:16 PM
#2182
09-08-2018, 09:45 PM
#2183
admittedly, I'm not so clued up about your tracks in the US. What I'm very confident though is that around a track here in Europe like Silverstone or Spa, a GT3 class racing car will be multi seconds faster than a McSenna. A UK owner took his back to back round Silverstone recently with his 650 GT3 and Senna and afaik, the GT3 car was well over 5+ seconds faster with the same decent gt-am driver. Top Gear apparently are supposed to have done something on this as Chris Harris I believe did some timed laps. I would I admit be amazed if the same didn't apply in the US though.
Philip with his senna who only had a few clean laps and has a couple of more track days of experience then silverstone guy at laguna seca.
09-08-2018, 10:03 PM
#2184
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Come again? I'm not so clued up on US sports car racing but a quick check on the website suggests IMSA race cars consist of basically LMP2, GTE and GT3 cars.
There is no way the McSenna is doing laptimes anywhere near the slowest of those 3 classes (GT3) quite simply as it does not have slick tyres.
09-08-2018, 10:47 PM
#2185
and you are on the mclife forum I believe. Just ask there if anyone thinks the senna will be faster than the 650 gt3. 2 members who have/are getting a Senna and also have raced the gt3 will I think be even more affirmative than I am that the gt3 car is faster due to slicks.
09-09-2018, 11:04 PM
#2187
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The Senna will absolutely do a 1:26.xxx at Laguna with the right conditions. That's mid pack GTD. That's gnarly.
Yes GT3 cars are BoP'd etc but here are the facts:
Weight is close- GTD cars are 1200-1250kg give or take and so is Senna.
HP/tQ: Senna is near 800HP/550lb/Ft.
Senna has active aero...and active suspension.
Senna has street tires, otherwise would be near GTE times which at a track like Sebring is only 2-3 seconds faster than GTD.
I'm seeing how it's a pretty easy conclusion that the times between a GT3 car (with BoP) and a Senna (with a pro level driver) are equal enough.
Yes GT3 cars are BoP'd etc but here are the facts:
Weight is close- GTD cars are 1200-1250kg give or take and so is Senna.
HP/tQ: Senna is near 800HP/550lb/Ft.
Senna has active aero...and active suspension.
Senna has street tires, otherwise would be near GTE times which at a track like Sebring is only 2-3 seconds faster than GTD.
I'm seeing how it's a pretty easy conclusion that the times between a GT3 car (with BoP) and a Senna (with a pro level driver) are equal enough.
09-10-2018, 01:17 AM
#2189
Burning Brakes
09-10-2018, 11:32 AM
#2190
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