991 GT3 VALUES
12-21-2016, 06:29 PM
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12-21-2016, 07:02 PM
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Of course you will. Look, I found you one already.
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12-22-2016, 11:50 PM
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These cars are an incredible value for their price point.
I ended up going with a 2015 GT3 vs a custom order 2017 Turbo S (or huracan, or R8, or mclaren) not only for the difference in the test drive, but the lack of depreciation by comparison.
It is priced very well as it is, and without any competition in the range it will hold much better than more higher priced cars.
I ended up going with a 2015 GT3 vs a custom order 2017 Turbo S (or huracan, or R8, or mclaren) not only for the difference in the test drive, but the lack of depreciation by comparison.
It is priced very well as it is, and without any competition in the range it will hold much better than more higher priced cars.
12-23-2016, 05:36 AM
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^This that and here , thanks and congrats
joking just copying yellow birds contentless posts
seriously you have really centered the question
GT3 was (as in production) and is (as used market)
the last product tulp-bubble free (or really marginally impacted)
the remainder is just a big flipping game where 1 flipper wins and all the others loose
joking just copying yellow birds contentless posts
seriously you have really centered the question
GT3 was (as in production) and is (as used market)
the last product tulp-bubble free (or really marginally impacted)
the remainder is just a big flipping game where 1 flipper wins and all the others loose
12-23-2016, 09:02 AM
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Actually, in a series of flips of the same car, everyone wins until the last guy, who loses a lot because he paid a lot and can't find a buyer except at a much lower price. The fact that so many win and only one loses is part of the reason why bubbles develop and can grow for a long time before bursting - with so many people winning and no one losing (yet), we all think that if someone will eventually lose, it will be someone else.
12-23-2016, 01:40 PM
#37
Actually, in a series of flips of the same car, everyone wins until the last guy, who loses a lot because he paid a lot and can't find a buyer except at a much lower price. The fact that so many win and only one loses is part of the reason why bubbles develop and can grow for a long time before bursting - with so many people winning and no one losing (yet), we all think that if someone will eventually lose, it will be someone else.
12-23-2016, 06:27 PM
#38
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I for one don't feel one bit sorry for someone who gets caught in the flipping game. Nobody makes you buy anything but greed can tear people apart. I buy what I want and have never bought something worrying what it would be worth down the road.
12-23-2016, 08:54 PM
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Actually, in a series of flips of the same car, everyone wins until the last guy, who loses a lot because he paid a lot and can't find a buyer except at a much lower price. The fact that so many win and only one loses is part of the reason why bubbles develop and can grow for a long time before bursting - with so many people winning and no one losing (yet), we all think that if someone will eventually lose, it will be someone else.
Have no sympathy for anyone who pays over MSRP and then gets stuck with a loss whether it is flipper #2 or 5! It is like gambling in Vegas, you know what you are getting yourself into before you do it! I personally will NOT play that game! That is one of the reasons I do not own an RS because my dealership would not sell one to me at MSRP!
Dealers are smart, when the market cools if dealers own most of the cars in play they somewhat control the market price.
When prices start to decline the last dealer will take a small loss and pass the car to another dealer, so on and so forth with no dealer taking a huge loss. Again dealers are smart.
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12-23-2016, 09:37 PM
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^ the flipping game is an issue created by the general public not the dealers. i dont own a dealership. i buy and sell often. usually lose money. well actually ALWAYS lose money. we have 10% tax and no trade in benefit.
i prefer selling to dealer. why? b/c i offer my cars here cheaply then i get tire kickers.
dealers? they call they pay same day.
and buyers more than happy to pay up to buy from dealer, so i am happy, dealers is happy.
to stop dealer flipping, no way.
goto marketplace read the commenrts of the peanut gallery ...
why would i bother. i just sold one of my GT4 to dealer at 85k. it sold at 100 from dealer . i am happy they are happy. so flip away...
i prefer selling to dealer. why? b/c i offer my cars here cheaply then i get tire kickers.
dealers? they call they pay same day.
and buyers more than happy to pay up to buy from dealer, so i am happy, dealers is happy.
to stop dealer flipping, no way.
goto marketplace read the commenrts of the peanut gallery ...
why would i bother. i just sold one of my GT4 to dealer at 85k. it sold at 100 from dealer . i am happy they are happy. so flip away...
12-23-2016, 10:39 PM
#43
You're missing one important line of reasoning.....just like the stock market, even an announcement sends prices down. Just yesterday I was marveling at a 10% drop since July on '15s with the higher miles.
In these scenarios, there are guys that sell immediately so they maximize their capital retention. So more supply. Likewise, there are guys that may have been buyers but will now go for a new one. So less demand.
So do not think even your upper limit will be reached by early delivery time.
In these scenarios, there are guys that sell immediately so they maximize their capital retention. So more supply. Likewise, there are guys that may have been buyers but will now go for a new one. So less demand.
So do not think even your upper limit will be reached by early delivery time.
12-23-2016, 10:40 PM
#44
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I'm confused.
What's wrong with making money?
What's wrong with making money?
12-23-2016, 11:39 PM
#45
I am going to go with a 991 GT3 and place an order for a AMG GT-R; those will be the two cars in the stable for awhile and not really concerned over prices. Why? Because those are two cars that I feel offer the best dollar to excitement ratio; and yes, I made that up...
As far as the pricing, lets objectify the situation as best we can...
As far as the pricing, lets objectify the situation as best we can...