usctrojanGT3

They should make it widely available but charge it as $20k-$25k option for GT cars. That would really make it interesting.

STALKER99

Then we be in Ferrari territory, lol.

It's $7930 for PTS in Canada for Turbo S.

GrantG

No, I think it's always been the same previously. BTW, Turbo S is also $6,950 in US...

grendel88

Actually color wraps are cleaner to remove because the adhesive is not exposed to sunlight compared to clear wraps. Clear wraps use clear adhesives which are very affected by UV light, according to the wrap guy I have used.

mooty

upcoming GT3 should have higher pts cost.
make it $25k then we wont have so many PTS. maybe make it $50k for the paint.

<3mph

Paradoxically, I wonder if higher PTS prices would have an even greater effect on boosting market "adjustments" for these cars, and therefore increase desirability further. Can't win...

GrantG

On that note - they should include a full spectrum of colors for no extra charge or build delay

mooty

the desirability will be there but just keep raising prices to shrink the PTS pool.

yes that will reduce desirability
or just make them one color.

jo_ker

interesting angle!



or calculated based on a weight ratio - $ per Oz of paint - price base is brake caliper CXX paint.




that paint would have also helped for the first delivered 991.1GT3.

Z356

Well, let's see the history of pricing in 'Special' & PTS at Porsche
to see if it sheds any light on Porsche's thinking as they priced
these color paint options!

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Back in 1958, Porsche was charging $26.20 for 'Special Color',
not to be confused with PTS which was also available but harder
to find its price back then (it was rarely ordered):




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By 1970, when my current 'Crystal Blue' 911E Targa was built & invoiced,
the cost of 'Special Color' had gone up to a whopping $185.00! Again,
PTS was available...but I don't have the cost handy! It couldn't have been
much!




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By 2007, 'Special Color' had gone up in cost to $3070 in the 997. They
had five such colors - starting with 'Slate Grey Metallic' to 'GT Silver
Metallic'. And PTS was barely $1000 more - $4315! That is what was
paid for my 'Signal Green' color code W25 paint on my MY2007 997S!

In retrospect, more people should have been interested in PTS at such
low pricing. Yet, there was no such 'rush' even at these 'bargains'!



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With the start of the 991/981 era, Porsche raised the price of
'Special Color' to $3,140 and Paint to Sample to $5,550! Now
that was a very interesting bump in price for PTS. That is what
I had to pay for the PTS 'Signal Green', color code 22S, on my
'15 991 gt3.



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Just recently Porsche raised the price of PTS to $6,950 on the 991,
but left it at $5,500 for the 981/718. The price rise coincided with
what Porsche has called an unprecedented interest & demand for
PTS. I wondered if we played even a small part in that here at
Rennlist?

'Special Color' pricing is still $3140 on the 991.2 and $2,580 on the
718.

For comparison sake, here are the prices for the other Porsche
models:

Model / Special Color / PTS
Macan / $3120 / $6515
Cayenne / $3140 / N/A
Panamera / $3300 / N/A but perhaps $9K+

Does the larger Panamera use $160 more paint than the
991 or Cayenne? But why is PTS on the Panamera reportedly
so much more expensive?

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On some other recent models, PTS had been even
more expensive. It was around $23000 for basic
one-color PTS on the 918 Spyder. More for the
Chrome special paints ($63+). And two or more
color PTS ($100+).



https://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-...r-stories.html

My understanding is that PTS on the few 911R
allowed with this option was slightly more than
the current $6,950 on the basic 991! And it
probably wouldn't had changed the equation
if PTS on this Limited Edition would have cost
double that amount!

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So that is some of the history of 'Special Color'
and PTS pricing at Porsche. What can we learn
from it? Well, you tell me. But let me just say
that when PTS was cheap (as recently as in the
997.1 era), it was rarely ordered. As it became
more popular (and I have a theory why, in part,
this came about! ) the cost of PTS increased.
Yet the demand, even at the higher price, exceeded
the ability of PAG to meet it, in particular with its
expensive gt3, gt3 RS, gt4, 911r & Boxster Spyders.
So where is the price elasticity of PTS at Porsche today?
We will continue on this topic at a future date in 2017!



Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale

Ferrarisimo

Or, you know, do what BMW does and give anyone who can afford the extra $5,000 the opportunity to spec an approved color. Or Audi. Or McLaren. Why must Porsche obfuscate the PTS program?

bronson7

It's very clear in their minds that they can charge what they want and still get away with it. Further more, I'm sure with all the interest that's been generated as of late, they can certainly, still charge more.

Ferrarisimo

I'm not frustrated by the cost of PTS. If Porsche wants to charge more for it, then they should have at it. What's frustrating is the unclear and limited nature of the process. Why can't they do what other car companies do and 1) Decide on a tiered price for the program, and 2) offer it to anyone willing to pay it? Why does it have to be this odd forbidden fruit?

bronson7

Agree 100%. Hopefully PAG is paying attention.

mooty

i am aware of that.
but after 20 years of owning porsche, i give up. i cannot understand their logic at all.

i just want to see in real time what will happen when PTS is a $80k option. i wont be getting it. but sometimes watching the game is more fun than being in the game. afterall, it is not my money