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Old 12-17-2016, 11:37 AM
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Here is a video of ClearGuard Nano SR paint protection film installed to a McLaren 675LT - this is the clearest and most durable paint protection film on the market today. Tim from Adonis Detail is also an exclusive Dealer with this product, which is made by Prestige Film Technologies

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Will post pics of my rs when i get it done. Have always had my cars wrapped by larry at ammo nyc. All hand cut and as seamless as possible. Guy does an awesome job. Make no mistake clear bra is 100% worth it. And a heads up to whoever mentioned below about uv protection on headlights. It is 100% true that it is possible to peel coating off while removing clear bra. Larry has brought this up and the possibility of clear bra removal causing a problem over gloss sealed carbon fiber parts.(other cars i have done) Worth the risk if you ask me. Clear bra's are so good now i see them lasting for quite a long time on a non tracked car
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Great thread. Many of us weren't informed in this detail as to what to reasonable expect.
My car is now wrappped expertly but it took me a bunch of cars to get a perfect job.
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Tim great info. Quick question. I have used two different reputable installers in South Florida. On both my GT4 and GT3 RS I have had tiny white fibers under the film. Only one under the front hood and one under the back bumper. These are in readily visible spots but I am assuming this falls under the "no installation is perfect" category of things?
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Can someone tell me if this is repairable or would it need to be ripped off and replaced? Thee weeks and less than 200 miles on the car - argghhh!!
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Originally Posted by Premier
Here is a video of ClearGuard Nano SR paint protection film installed to a McLaren 675LT - this is the clearest and most durable paint protection film on the market today. Tim from Adonis Detail is also an exclusive Dealer with this product, which is made by Prestige Film Technologies

CGN is an amazing product, by far the highest gloss and clearest film on the market and one of the thickest at 8.2mils!

Originally Posted by Golden Boy
Will post pics of my rs when i get it done. Have always had my cars wrapped by larry at ammo nyc. All hand cut and as seamless as possible. Guy does an awesome job. Make no mistake clear bra is 100% worth it. And a heads up to whoever mentioned below about uv protection on headlights. It is 100% true that it is possible to peel coating off while removing clear bra. Larry has brought this up and the possibility of clear bra removal causing a problem over gloss sealed carbon fiber parts.(other cars i have done) Worth the risk if you ask me. Clear bra's are so good now i see them lasting for quite a long time on a non tracked car
Larry is a true professional, I'm sure the vendors he uses are the same. Clear bra has come quite a ways in recent years and the cost/benefit factor is now evermore enticing than ever. If you care about the finish of your vehicle, there isn't a better option that protecting it with clear bra.

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Great thread. Many of us weren't informed in this detail as to what to reasonable expect.
My car is now wrappped expertly but it took me a bunch of cars to get a perfect job.
Thanks for reading!!

Its hard finding the needle in the haystack, but there are many good installers out there if you research properly.

Originally Posted by RadDoc24
Tim great info. Quick question. I have used two different reputable installers in South Florida. On both my GT4 and GT3 RS I have had tiny white fibers under the film. Only one under the front hood and one under the back bumper. These are in readily visible spots but I am assuming this falls under the "no installation is perfect" category of things?
Thanks for reading!

It depends on the installer, for example, no installation is ever realistically "Debris free". BUT that does not mean it should be obvious or unsightly, large pieces of debris, hair of fibers especially in easily to see areas would be removed at my shop. If it's caught after the install is complete I would remove that section and re-install if the debris is large or easy to see.

We don't ever release cars with large debris or debris in several different locations as this can be remedied with proper working environment or installation techniques.

Originally Posted by Ducati1199
Can someone tell me if this is repairable or would it need to be ripped off and replaced? Thee weeks and less than 200 miles on the car - argghhh!!
The only way to maintain perfect or near perfect is to put your car in a bubble, lock it up in a garage and never drive it. Wear and tear like this is something you should expect, it can happen at 200 miles or 20,000 miles. The beauty is that the paint underneath is spared, keep driving and enjoying and down the road after many more miles you want to replace it, replace it. Tears in film happen when large enough debris at fast enough velocities impact it, thankfully that kinetic energy is absorbed and diffused in the film rather than the brittle/delicate paint surfaces.
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Thanks for the info. Yeah there is only one small 2 mm white hair on the back bumper and one under the from hood film. There is a softball size circular lift line above the GT3RS on the rear bumper that get noticed a lot though
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Originally Posted by RadDoc24
Thanks for the info. Yeah there is only one small 2 mm white hair on the back bumper and one under the from hood film. There is a softball size circular lift line above the GT3RS on the rear bumper that get noticed a lot though
From the sound of it....if you can see it then we would say it may be on the borderline of unacceptable. However, installation quality would vary from state to state. What the best film installer in one state can vary wildly from another "best" in another state. Since we have been a sponsor on Rennlist since 2004, we have shared with members many pointers.

Below is a guideline of what consumers should look for:

1. Address your concerns or questions up front with the installer.
2. The installer should be open and honest about what they can or cannot achieve regardless of precut or custom.
3. How much experience does the company actually have - research this carefully and look at their online presence.
4. Does the installer outsource their work to another installer? Many actually do
5. Is the installer trained from proper channels? Most installers today go through a 1-3 day training course and are then out to do work on customer vehicles.
6. If the installer is a newer company, did the installer get trained by a reputable company or through one of the mass market 1-3 day course? This makes a big difference.

Hope this helps for those considering paint protection film installation.
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Great information in this article. I particularly like the part about spending some time talking to your installer. It is important to know what the expectations are for an install. At our shop, we like to go over each panel and discuss where the film edges will be. Some customers do not want to spend that much time, but if it is important to you, spend the 10 minutes, a good install is all in the details.
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Originally Posted by TimAD
Yes correct, indeed this is normal when looking at clear bra with polarized sunglasses. This would fall under the shop not taking the time to invest in their customers, explaining what to expect with their installations.

Great insight. Thx.

Have not seen this on Suntek film on a buddies car. Film seems flatter than original paint. What is your opinion on suntek?
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Hi ALL

I have installed the PPF on my R last week, Overall I am quite happy with the job, now I know how good it is to drive the car without worry the stone chips.

But nothing is perfect, now I have one thing which is annoying me is the bubble gap between the strip and paint, please see photo.



Just wondering if Anyone here has the same experience?

Someone people have suggested removing the stripes before PPF apply, and problem solved, but I didn't go that way as I don't feel like to touch the strips.

the worst case is to remove the film on those panels and leave it naked with no protection.
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Originally Posted by jefrac
Great information in this article. I particularly like the part about spending some time talking to your installer. It is important to know what the expectations are for an install. At our shop, we like to go over each panel and discuss where the film edges will be. Some customers do not want to spend that much time, but if it is important to you, spend the 10 minutes, a good install is all in the details.
Exactly, setting expectations and properly educating your clients is the most important part of the process aside from the installation itself.

Originally Posted by Outlaw
Great insight. Thx.

Have not seen this on Suntek film on a buddies car. Film seems flatter than original paint. What is your opinion on suntek?
SunTek does appear to have less noticeable texture than some other films. We use ClearGuard Nano for our clients that want the flattest and highest gloss film.

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Hi ALL

I have installed the PPF on my R last week, Overall I am quite happy with the job, now I know how good it is to drive the car without worry the stone chips.

But nothing is perfect, now I have one thing which is annoying me is the bubble gap between the strip and paint, please see photo.



Just wondering if Anyone here has the same experience?

Someone people have suggested removing the stripes before PPF apply, and problem solved, but I didn't go that way as I don't feel like to touch the strips.

the worst case is to remove the film on those panels and leave it naked with no protection.
This is one option when doing stripes, but like you said you do get an air gap around the stripe itself.

You can remove stripes and re apply over the clear bra for no air gap, but do keep in mind that if/when that clear bra gets damaged and removed the stripe will have to be removed as well. This can get very costly for oem stripes on cars like Porsche.
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Originally Posted by TimAD
Exactly, setting expectations and properly educating your clients is the most important part of the process aside from the installation itself.
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What do you think if I just cut a little line along the side of the edge which is allowed the air to come out?
or should I just hand cut and remove the film in the area that covered the stripes?
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I wouldn't try to hand cut film on my car.
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Originally Posted by Alan C.
I wouldn't try to hand cut film on my car.
I agree here, no way if it's mine.

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