991 GT3 RS production numbers?
#17
Rennlist Member
Thanks
Yip. 4500-5000 by end production would be what I'd expect.
It's interesting though. Europe and Asia have received a heap of these. They are still being delivered in reasonable numbers. Talking with a few well connected owners in other markets
Sept - Dec productions is the end. Estimate roughly 60 per month to US gets you to around 1500 total US and total WW will be 4000-4500 for the 991 RS .1 . NA production used to be around 50 % of WW. Seems to be getting closer to 40% of WW production lately. 40 % of 4k = 1600. Hmmm...
It's interesting though. Europe and Asia have received a heap of these. They are still being delivered in reasonable numbers. Talking with a few well connected owners in other markets
#19
In Hong Kong alone there are more than 120, about same number for Taiwan. In Manila, over 24. About 2.5-3 times the number compared to previous RS iterations. In each of these cities it was not difficult to get an allocation as long as you were willing to wait, the Porsche sales teams were aggressive about pushing the car.
9,000 still sounds high, but possible if GT3 + RS total.
9,000 still sounds high, but possible if GT3 + RS total.
#21
Originally Posted by Macca
...it would seem in many markets 2-3x GT3 allocation and perhaps this time USA is only 35%?
#22
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Somewhere around 3300 units I would guess. uSA was a very high % of these, around 55%. The dieselgate debacle has no doubt changed PAGs view on volume and PDK has made the product more attractive to markets that shun manual, busy places like HK and Taipei....
#23
Nordschleife Master
I believe I have a pretty good handle on North American cars and I see around 1400 right now. Perhaps there are 5000 or so in some of those ghost cities in China. I can't confirm that.
My cat says 5000 total, but I think it's less. We argue a lot.
The official number from dealer looking to buy RS from you = 9000
official number from dealer selling RS to you = 147
My cat says 5000 total, but I think it's less. We argue a lot.
The official number from dealer looking to buy RS from you = 9000
official number from dealer selling RS to you = 147
Just using February 2015 as the beginning of production for the RS and we understood PAG produced around 1500 initial run WW to March 2016 (918 for the 918 boys plus 500 or so more) and the 2016 "additional production" was to be another 100 to meet demand. They would have had to match initial production or double the initial run to get to the numbers some are speculating here or 10 to more than 20x the stated extended production numbers announced in the spring of 2016. They also had supplier issues for the roof which sees three countries in it's slow production process.
Dealer lots would be filled with them like Corvettes.
My dealer which is in the top 20 for volume got two additional from the extended production. My other dealer, very small got 0 from the extended run.
Max WW production is more like 2500 give or take a 100 or so.
There is some wild speculation here on numbers.
#24
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There must be a lot. I've personally seen about 10 myself out and about But regardless of how many each time I see one I'm like dayuuum that's an awesome looking Porsche
#25
Nordschleife Master
I believe I have a pretty good handle on North American cars and I see around 1400 right now. Perhaps there are 5000 or so in some of those ghost cities in China. I can't confirm that.
My cat says 5000 total, but I think it's less. We argue a lot.
The official number from dealer looking to buy RS from you = 9000
official number from dealer selling RS to you = 147
My cat says 5000 total, but I think it's less. We argue a lot.
The official number from dealer looking to buy RS from you = 9000
official number from dealer selling RS to you = 147
Just using February 2015 as the beginning of production for the RS and we understood PAG produced around 1500 to 2000 initial run WW to March 2016 (918 for the 918 boys plus 500 to 1000 or so more for rest of world max. The the 2016 "additional production" was to be another 100 to meet demand. They would have had to match production or double the initial run to get to the numbers some are speculating here or 10x to more than 20x the stated extended production numbers announced in the spring of 2016. They also had supplier issues for the roof which sees three countries in it's slow production process.
I would be very surprised if GT RS production exceeded 10 per day at it's height which based on a 5 day work week and not counting August that's roughly 2200 per year max. That would be the max for the initial production run. Extended production was announced in May 2016 and we know the last RS is being produced in December 2016. No way were 10 per day produced for the second run. No way.
Dealer lots would be filled with them like Corvettes.
My dealer which is in the top 20 for volume got two additional from the extended production. My other dealer, very small got 0 from the extended run.
Max WW production is more like 2500 give or take a 100 or so.
There is some wild speculation here on numbers.
#26
#27
@Waxxer
2.500 units truly false!
WW: + 7.500 units!
(know it from a porsche guy.)
2.500 units truly false!
WW: + 7.500 units!
(know it from a porsche guy.)
#28
Rennlist Member
It's true. On the other thread a few months back we compiled almost 3000 units just using data from a handful of markets excluding Europe. For sure it's well over 4000 units by end of production this month but I suspect it's under 6000 so maybe GT3 plus RS is indeed around 9000.
If we take (rounded numbers roughly confirmed from other thread) 300 UK, 350 HK, Sing, Taiwan, Malaysia, 20 NZ, 140 Australia, 1600 US/Canada, 1100 western Europe, then that leaves 1000 units for India, Eastern Europe, Russia, china, Brunei, Africa and South America. 4500 doesn't look unrealistic?
If we take (rounded numbers roughly confirmed from other thread) 300 UK, 350 HK, Sing, Taiwan, Malaysia, 20 NZ, 140 Australia, 1600 US/Canada, 1100 western Europe, then that leaves 1000 units for India, Eastern Europe, Russia, china, Brunei, Africa and South America. 4500 doesn't look unrealistic?
#29
Loess, your cat is wrong.
Just using February 2015 as the beginning of production for the RS and we understood PAG produced around 1500 initial run WW to March 2016 (918 for the 918 boys plus 500 or so more) and the 2016 "additional production" was to be another 100 to meet demand. They would have had to match initial production or double the initial run to get to the numbers some are speculating here or 10 to more than 20x the stated extended production numbers announced in the spring of 2016. They also had supplier issues for the roof which sees three countries in it's slow production process.
Dealer lots would be filled with them like Corvettes.
My dealer which is in the top 20 for volume got two additional from the extended production. My other dealer, very small got 0 from the extended run.
Max WW production is more like 2500 give or take a 100 or so.
There is some wild speculation here on numbers.
Just using February 2015 as the beginning of production for the RS and we understood PAG produced around 1500 initial run WW to March 2016 (918 for the 918 boys plus 500 or so more) and the 2016 "additional production" was to be another 100 to meet demand. They would have had to match initial production or double the initial run to get to the numbers some are speculating here or 10 to more than 20x the stated extended production numbers announced in the spring of 2016. They also had supplier issues for the roof which sees three countries in it's slow production process.
Dealer lots would be filled with them like Corvettes.
My dealer which is in the top 20 for volume got two additional from the extended production. My other dealer, very small got 0 from the extended run.
Max WW production is more like 2500 give or take a 100 or so.
There is some wild speculation here on numbers.
#30
First production year was GT3 on the same production line with RS + another 991 models.Think a little bit!