The official 991.2 GT3 thread-latest pics,rumors,build specs
10-29-2016, 01:29 PM
#46
10-29-2016, 01:47 PM
#47
Drifting
Sorry Spacedust. Your 'source" cooked himself when he told you Paris for the 991.2 GT3 launch then backtracked after we found out it was not Paris and said that they changed their mind not to take focus away from panamera E-Hybrid. As many of us have had "cleaning ladies" close to PAG at one time or another we know that they are always right until they are wrong! Once wrong they have become the 'cleaning ladies" hairdressers sister....
10-29-2016, 02:16 PM
#48
Rennlist Member
Back in February I think I was the first to report that my cleaning lady had told me the 991.2 GT3 would have a 4.0 l engine, manual, 485 HP, etc. She validated that information 2 more times since then.
Well today my dealer told me that yesterday PAG informed them that they have been allocated 4 build slots for next year starting in July and confirmed it's a 4.0l, manual, 485 hp ....and....optional wing delete! No special panels like 991R or RS so same as current GT3. He gets detailed pricing and options in the next 3-4 weeks. I have the first build slot.
Well today my dealer told me that yesterday PAG informed them that they have been allocated 4 build slots for next year starting in July and confirmed it's a 4.0l, manual, 485 hp ....and....optional wing delete! No special panels like 991R or RS so same as current GT3. He gets detailed pricing and options in the next 3-4 weeks. I have the first build slot.
10-29-2016, 02:41 PM
#50
Optional wing delete!
Now thing just getting a lot more interesting.
Now thing just getting a lot more interesting.
10-29-2016, 06:04 PM
#54
Rennlist Member
Chris. Thanks for the Intel. I guess it is in line with what we predicted, other than the wing delete. Maybe this is why the are testing those rear diffusers!
Dealers should start getting their 2017 allocations across all models before Xmas in UK & Europe. Sounds like a Geneva release then.
That extra torque is much needed. A power difference of 20bhp won't make much difference in the track but another 30lbft would be nice!
In terms of spec I have only advice from expire fed of myself and a few others who use our 991 GT3 on track.
1. Sound plus waste of time. Stereo is very poor all round, save your money sound plus doesn't improve it any.
2. Next model will have new pcm with CarPlay android auto - spend your sound plus savings on direct connect which is a convenience option...
3. Extended leather with dash and tops of door caps well worth the $2500 IMO - lifts the interior and puts the brushed steel accent back on the doors to follow the line from the trim on the dash to create continuity
4. If you really want to treat yourself order the steering column in leather or visors in aka alacantera. Nice way to set things off a little bit exclusive
5 if you use the car on track or a lot on road DONT order the lower sills painted. One of our group has and its pebble dashed to death alread and looks ugly. Has now been painted again twice. Even my black ones have gone all "furry" from rock rash. The front wheels flick stuff up that will pound these.
6 Led headlight is an aesthetic preference. Most of my buddies agree the standard lights(especially in black) look better. The practical lighting side seems no difference to me on early morning trips we have done in convoy to the track.
If you are going pcm only without Nav like I did then make sure you order phone prep (Bluetooth connect). The new CarPlay head unit means you can now broadcast your google maps and sci apps like Waze into the heady unit! Strictly speaking you don't need factory navi any more which will be a relief for many!!
My last piece of advice will be controversial. Unless you live in San Fran don't bother with lift! It's expensive complex adds weight and only good when you remember to use it. Front spoiler lips are $180 a shot - just learn to take a bit of care and you can pay for all your options above with what you save! Of the 5 guys I go to be track with 4 have lift and I don't. Only one of them will order lift next time because of his driveway which has a hard angle to negotiate. I've never regretted going without, I thought I would but as my car was a ROW "Clubsport spec" I decided to keep it simple and pure and I've not regretted the decision. My next one will not have lift...
Dealers should start getting their 2017 allocations across all models before Xmas in UK & Europe. Sounds like a Geneva release then.
That extra torque is much needed. A power difference of 20bhp won't make much difference in the track but another 30lbft would be nice!
In terms of spec I have only advice from expire fed of myself and a few others who use our 991 GT3 on track.
1. Sound plus waste of time. Stereo is very poor all round, save your money sound plus doesn't improve it any.
2. Next model will have new pcm with CarPlay android auto - spend your sound plus savings on direct connect which is a convenience option...
3. Extended leather with dash and tops of door caps well worth the $2500 IMO - lifts the interior and puts the brushed steel accent back on the doors to follow the line from the trim on the dash to create continuity
4. If you really want to treat yourself order the steering column in leather or visors in aka alacantera. Nice way to set things off a little bit exclusive
5 if you use the car on track or a lot on road DONT order the lower sills painted. One of our group has and its pebble dashed to death alread and looks ugly. Has now been painted again twice. Even my black ones have gone all "furry" from rock rash. The front wheels flick stuff up that will pound these.
6 Led headlight is an aesthetic preference. Most of my buddies agree the standard lights(especially in black) look better. The practical lighting side seems no difference to me on early morning trips we have done in convoy to the track.
If you are going pcm only without Nav like I did then make sure you order phone prep (Bluetooth connect). The new CarPlay head unit means you can now broadcast your google maps and sci apps like Waze into the heady unit! Strictly speaking you don't need factory navi any more which will be a relief for many!!
My last piece of advice will be controversial. Unless you live in San Fran don't bother with lift! It's expensive complex adds weight and only good when you remember to use it. Front spoiler lips are $180 a shot - just learn to take a bit of care and you can pay for all your options above with what you save! Of the 5 guys I go to be track with 4 have lift and I don't. Only one of them will order lift next time because of his driveway which has a hard angle to negotiate. I've never regretted going without, I thought I would but as my car was a ROW "Clubsport spec" I decided to keep it simple and pure and I've not regretted the decision. My next one will not have lift...
10-29-2016, 08:05 PM
#56
Rennlist Member
I am going to keep my 991.2 GT3 pretty much the same spec as my 991.1 GT3....except I will add lift.
I am now on my 3rd splitter due to the speed humps and cobblestone streets in Europe where I live. But I will drop the Bose option. Car is too noisy to use it anyway. And I will keep the wing.
So my spec will be-
- whit
- front axle lift
- PDK
- leather with red stitching
- red belts
- red dials
- Apple car play
- black lights
- sport chrono
- bigger gas tank
- carbon interior
- heated seats
- cruise (yes, I use it on long trips)
- rain sensor
- PCM
- sound plus
- telephone module
- smaller steering wheel
- and sofas!
I am now on my 3rd splitter due to the speed humps and cobblestone streets in Europe where I live. But I will drop the Bose option. Car is too noisy to use it anyway. And I will keep the wing.
So my spec will be-
- whit
- front axle lift
- PDK
- leather with red stitching
- red belts
- red dials
- Apple car play
- black lights
- sport chrono
- bigger gas tank
- carbon interior
- heated seats
- cruise (yes, I use it on long trips)
- rain sensor
- PCM
- sound plus
- telephone module
- smaller steering wheel
- and sofas!
10-29-2016, 08:06 PM
#57
Chris. Thanks for the Intel. I guess it is in line with what we predicted, other than the wing delete. Maybe this is why the are testing those rear diffusers!
Dealers should start getting their 2017 allocations across all models before Xmas in UK & Europe. Sounds like a Geneva release then.
That extra torque is much needed. A power difference of 20bhp won't make much difference in the track but another 30lbft would be nice!
In terms of spec I have only advice from expire fed of myself and a few others who use our 991 GT3 on track.
1. Sound plus waste of time. Stereo is very poor all round, save your money sound plus doesn't improve it any.
2. Next model will have new pcm with CarPlay android auto - spend your sound plus savings on direct connect which is a convenience option...
3. Extended leather with dash and tops of door caps well worth the $2500 IMO - lifts the interior and puts the brushed steel accent back on the doors to follow the line from the trim on the dash to create continuity
4. If you really want to treat yourself order the steering column in leather or visors in aka alacantera. Nice way to set things off a little bit exclusive
5 if you use the car on track or a lot on road DONT order the lower sills painted. One of our group has and its pebble dashed to death alread and looks ugly. Has now been painted again twice. Even my black ones have gone all "furry" from rock rash. The front wheels flick stuff up that will pound these.
6 Led headlight is an aesthetic preference. Most of my buddies agree the standard lights(especially in black) look better. The practical lighting side seems no difference to me on early morning trips we have done in convoy to the track.
If you are going pcm only without Nav like I did then make sure you order phone prep (Bluetooth connect). The new CarPlay head unit means you can now broadcast your google maps and sci apps like Waze into the heady unit! Strictly speaking you don't need factory navi any more which will be a relief for many!!
My last piece of advice will be controversial. Unless you live in San Fran don't bother with lift! It's expensive complex adds weight and only good when you remember to use it. Front spoiler lips are $180 a shot - just learn to take a bit of care and you can pay for all your options above with what you save! Of the 5 guys I go to be track with 4 have lift and I don't. Only one of them will order lift next time because of his driveway which has a hard angle to negotiate. I've never regretted going without, I thought I would but as my car was a ROW "Clubsport spec" I decided to keep it simple and pure and I've not regretted the decision. My next one will not have lift...
Dealers should start getting their 2017 allocations across all models before Xmas in UK & Europe. Sounds like a Geneva release then.
That extra torque is much needed. A power difference of 20bhp won't make much difference in the track but another 30lbft would be nice!
In terms of spec I have only advice from expire fed of myself and a few others who use our 991 GT3 on track.
1. Sound plus waste of time. Stereo is very poor all round, save your money sound plus doesn't improve it any.
2. Next model will have new pcm with CarPlay android auto - spend your sound plus savings on direct connect which is a convenience option...
3. Extended leather with dash and tops of door caps well worth the $2500 IMO - lifts the interior and puts the brushed steel accent back on the doors to follow the line from the trim on the dash to create continuity
4. If you really want to treat yourself order the steering column in leather or visors in aka alacantera. Nice way to set things off a little bit exclusive
5 if you use the car on track or a lot on road DONT order the lower sills painted. One of our group has and its pebble dashed to death alread and looks ugly. Has now been painted again twice. Even my black ones have gone all "furry" from rock rash. The front wheels flick stuff up that will pound these.
6 Led headlight is an aesthetic preference. Most of my buddies agree the standard lights(especially in black) look better. The practical lighting side seems no difference to me on early morning trips we have done in convoy to the track.
If you are going pcm only without Nav like I did then make sure you order phone prep (Bluetooth connect). The new CarPlay head unit means you can now broadcast your google maps and sci apps like Waze into the heady unit! Strictly speaking you don't need factory navi any more which will be a relief for many!!
My last piece of advice will be controversial. Unless you live in San Fran don't bother with lift! It's expensive complex adds weight and only good when you remember to use it. Front spoiler lips are $180 a shot - just learn to take a bit of care and you can pay for all your options above with what you save! Of the 5 guys I go to be track with 4 have lift and I don't. Only one of them will order lift next time because of his driveway which has a hard angle to negotiate. I've never regretted going without, I thought I would but as my car was a ROW "Clubsport spec" I decided to keep it simple and pure and I've not regretted the decision. My next one will not have lift...
Any other options we should reconsider? I like your comments for front lift and savings $3500.
10-29-2016, 09:58 PM
#58
Burning Brakes
Thank you macca for the great advice!! So much for getting the sills painted. I plan on wrapping the entire car in ppf but sounds like it's not worth getting them painted.
I should familiarize myself more with the options as I thought I had to get sound package plus in order to equip Nav.
I should familiarize myself more with the options as I thought I had to get sound package plus in order to equip Nav.
10-29-2016, 10:40 PM
#59
Rennlist Member
I have to admit my information is about 4 months old and it was: there will be no 991.2 GT3 RS. The next GT3 RS was planned to be a hybrid one and therefore it will be 992 and available in about 2 to 3 years. This information was from a very reliable source in Weissach. As you know many things and persons changed at Porsche in the last months due to the infamous Diesel Gate (I am german and i shame for that) and now they need turnover and money, so strategies can change at Porsche. But again some months ago, next GT3 RS was planned as a hybrid on the base of 992, this was the story I was told. There will be also coming a 911 R again, next time unlimited, not now, will take some time ....
GT3 for track
R is GT3 driveline with RS goodies
RS the daddy for fastest laptimes so it new longer gets beat by TTS..
Not so much wing delete as it is R diffuser option.
