mass27

I think that most people will agree with the following, even if it is still speculation, it is educated speculation:

1. 991.2 GT3 will be released. More likely than not will be NA and offered in a manual.

2. GT2 AND/OR GT2RS will be released.

Here are my questions based on the all the information floating on these forums:

A. Do you agree with either statement #1 and/or statement #2
B. Assuming you agree, would they release a 991.2 GT3RS?
C. If you don't agree, with statement #1, and you think the next generation GT3/RS will be turbo, why would PAG make a GT2/GT2RS? How would it be differentiated.
D. Ignore all of the above and assume that PAG (and most other car manufacturers) are moving towards turbo. Would the 992 GT be turbo? If so, would PAG really need a GT3/GT3RS/GT2/GT2RS? Or, just one GT model based on the Carrera that is not the same as a Turbo S.

PAG has done a good job offering so many models for so many circumstances, but the lines are starting to seem blurred if all of the 911 models are turbo.

Thoughts?

997rs4.0

Agree with both A and B.

If I would be in charge in Stuttgart!

991.2gt3 will be a big step up from gen1. Offered with MT as option, 4.0l engine and quite a bit of lightweight material used from gen1rs and 911R. Will obviously bump the price quite a bit. Almost to 991rs Msrp?
991gt2rs will be a monster with 650-700hp and crazy aero like Viper! Thinking $250k-275k base price.
If we think that each generation normally last 6-7 years and 991 was released 2012. (Launch Frankfurt 2011) There wont be a 991.2rs.
Edit,

Thinking 991gts taking the gt3 place in performance. (Less the sound) 991.2gt3 takes the RS position. 991gt2rs takes over the RS crown.

porscheflat6

^^^^ Good speculation and could see that

kfmcmahon

agree with A & B.

No GT3RS 991.2

of course, this is just my humble opinion

SC62

The speculation game... How fun. This is what I would like to see...*

991.2 GT3 - NA, Manual, 20 hp bump. Same as 996 & 997 Gen 2 cars.

991.2 GT2 - 650+ hp, stick

991.2 GT2 RS - 675+ hp, PDK only, extra aero bits

991.2 GT3 RS - NA, PDK only, 25 hp bump

992 GT3 RS- Remains NA but receives Hybrid Tech from 918, PDK only. Only way I see GT cars meeting Euro emission standards and retaining the emotional character of their current atmospheric engines. Small chance of it in the 991.2 cars but you never know.

*Disclaimer: The statements above reflect the personal opinions of the author and do not represent any information received from official sources or cleaning staff at Porsche AG or PCNA.

SC62

This would be great for RS prices...

mass27

...

Just in time

Mostly agree. The GT3 brand is so valuable to PAG that I have to think it will continue to track whatever rules are in place by FIA/ACO. For now GT AM cat is NA thus I would expect GT3 to remain NA until those rules change. IMHO.

mass27

So, someday, possibly with 992, we will see GT in turbo.

Will this be the migration similar to the current die hard manual fans who have slowly converted to PDK?

For people who love the way the current GT3/RS revs are we just holding onto nostalgia long enough until they no longer make NA engines in the GT class.

Is it ever possible that the turbo engines eliminate turbo lag and rev as freely as a NA engine.

SC62

At this rate, if I keep putting on miles, that's likely all it's going to be worth. Addicted.

bronson7

^^^Eventually the day will come. It's inevitable.

SC62

It comes down to performance and it is inevitable. You can only go so far until the performance derived from forced induction or hybrid power is what's required to stay competitive in the marketplace.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...dscape-feature

We just have to hope they continue to make cars that provide a very visceral experience.

My bigger concern is how long will it take before self driving electric vehicles and regulations will eventually force petro cars that require driver input to the race track or remote country roads. I expect that in my lifetime.

As for the elimination of Turbo lag, McLaren used the electric motors on the P1 to fill gaps in the torque band and the new Audis like the RS6 deliver even torque from less than 2,000 rpm.

http://www.audi.ie/ie/web/en/models/...si-engine.html

sccchiii

Sorry I can't answer any of them....so many questions my brain is confused

SC62

I tried. Not sure I got them all.

mass27

Nailed it!