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Old 03-13-2017, 04:27 PM
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It seems Credit Unions usually have the best rates in today's world. However, many CUs that I researched only offer loans up to $100k. Has anyone had a good experience or know of a CU that finances $100k+ with good terms?

I currently have a loan with Digital Credit Union (DCU) @ 1.74% for 65 months, but it was a small loan. I don't believe they go much beyond $50k.
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Originally Posted by ChicagoM4
It seems Credit Unions usually have the best rates in today's world. However, many CUs that I researched only offer loans up to $100k. Has anyone had a good experience or know of a CU that finances $100k+ with good terms?

I currently have a loan with Digital Credit Union (DCU) @ 1.74% for 65 months, but it was a small loan. I don't believe they go much beyond $50k.
woodside credit union does up to $600k and 144 months but the interest rate won't be all that great
Old 03-13-2017, 04:31 PM
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If you go with a 3rd party leasing company and determine the residual will be higher than the cost of the car, will they pay you to lease it?
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Originally Posted by ChicagoM4
It seems Credit Unions usually have the best rates in today's world. However, many CUs that I researched only offer loans up to $100k. Has anyone had a good experience or know of a CU that finances $100k+ with good terms?

I currently have a loan with Digital Credit Union (DCU) @ 1.74% for 65 months, but it was a small loan. I don't believe they go much beyond $50k.
I did a $150K loan with DCU @ 1.49% for 65 months in January 2015.


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Last edited by alpine-al; 03-29-2017 at 02:53 PM. Reason: The actual rate that I got was 1.49%, not 1.74%.
Old 03-29-2017, 01:57 AM
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I've never understood the "better to lease to save the sales tax in CA" argument. When you factor in cap reduction cost and increased interest on lease vs lower loan rates, it comes out almost exactly the same. I've done the math many many times. Either way you pay.....
Old 03-29-2017, 02:08 AM
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^ yes, porsches you pay now or pay late, pay pay pay keep paying paying.
Old 03-29-2017, 02:23 AM
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^ True that Porsche jacks up the rate, making it more or less a wash, but there is still the benefit of protected downside in the event of a recession, lemon, accident, etc.

Makes more sense with other brands. Just leased a new Range Rover; with nothing up front and a MF equivalent of under 3% for 3 years, it was a no-brainer to lease and avoid over $5k in CA sales tax over the term.
Old 03-29-2017, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by doubleurx
While the IRS doesn't limit brands, one of the most common big red flags for an audit are high end cars with a high percentage write off. Remember, you do have to justify the business use portion. Anything above 70% is unrealistic.
And don't overlook the rule that commuting to and from work counts as personal use, not business use. It's driving from work to other work-related location that's business.
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Originally Posted by dave w
I've never understood the "better to lease to save the sales tax in CA" argument. When you factor in cap reduction cost and increased interest on lease vs lower loan rates, it comes out almost exactly the same. I've done the math many many times. Either way you pay.....
?? Money factors are often comparable to interest rate equivalents, though I'm less familiar w/what Porsche is offering at the moment. Regardless, if you trade your car in every 3 years in California, you've saved a ton on sales tax by leasing vs. paying 100% on sales price (vs. sales tax on monthly lease payments). No sales tax credit in California. Paying cap cost reduction is optional and is not recommended -- you're accelerating sales tax.
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Originally Posted by mooty
^ yes, porsches you pay now or pay late, pay pay pay keep paying paying.
Sounds like a lot...
Old 03-29-2017, 07:46 AM
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Hello to all! My opinion is to lease one. After a small research I found here that they have amazing deals! https://dsrleasing.com
Old 03-29-2017, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by WernerE
?? Money factors are often comparable to interest rate equivalents, though I'm less familiar w/what Porsche is offering at the moment. Regardless, if you trade your car in every 3 years in California, you've saved a ton on sales tax by leasing vs. paying 100% on sales price (vs. sales tax on monthly lease payments). No sales tax credit in California. Paying cap cost reduction is optional and is not recommended -- you're accelerating sales tax.
I get the theory. My point is that the math doesn't really work out on 911's. Current MF is around .0024 (5.75%), and PFS typically requires $5000 cap reduction to get those terms. Loan rates are around 1.75% right now. So you walk out paying the same either way. Without the cap reduction you are paying more interest as well. With a 100k loan you pay 9k in taxes and about 2.5K in interest in 36 months. With a lease you pay about 3k in taxes, 4k in interest and 5k in cap reduction. 12k either way. Add in equal amounts of depreciation and at the end of 3 years you are in the exact same place either way.
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Im going to get flamed on but have always lived by you always pay for toys and a GT car is a toy.
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Easy!
Write check - Buy car
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Originally Posted by 06C2s
Im going to get flamed on but have always lived by you always pay for toys and a GT car is a toy.
^+1
Originally Posted by MJones
Easy!
Write check - Buy car
^Exactly! ( less painful this way )


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