Catmagog

Tend to agree. Why push out as many 991.1RS's as one can if a 991.2RS is coming?

In addition NA cars are being left in the dust ito performance by the turbo cars i.e. 488 and 675LT and however much the "purity" of NA is appealing its just too costly to engineer them to perform like their turbo equivalents.

tcsracing1

I think at some point Porsche will no longer produce NA engines for just the GT3.
Maybe as early as 992 series everything will be turbo.

Therefore the 991 GT3 cars will become a world of their own.

This would make the outgoing 991RS extremely attractive.

Catmagog

yup my view exactly. Lamborghini will go V8 TT for the entire range after current Aventador and Huracan. McLaren is already there and Ferrari is there in the V8 cars.

Porsche wont produce a car that cant compete. Makes no sense

mooty

why woudl you want GT3 prices to soar? i hope all GT3/RS take a dump in price next week, and i say this as a multiple RS owner. then we will get rid of speculator and see more of these things on the road tailgating each other and not worry so much about mileage.

Mr. Adair

Mr. Mooty.. why are you parting with your new SSD already? Pretty good price btw. I am waiting for a black dial at my dealer (white is still 12 months out). Do you want the white dial now? Or need the money for more plush bears?

bccars

Dealer says they get allocations on .2 GT3, .2 GT3RS and GT2RS. NO GT2 allocations !

mooty

i have 4 SSD
white and blk random serial 4 months old non ceramic bezel
white and blk ceramic dial

i am getting old
i set timer as our family did hikes in jackson hole wyoming (beautiful place, i survived with bison and moose with no porsche for 10 days). the wife ask me how long have we hiked. i look .... guess what, i cannot read it, glasses on glasses off.... wtf... i just can't read the little ticks..... beside SSD, all my watches are 46mm or bigger.

so that's why i am selling. the blk is the last one. the others sold very quickly i am actually suprissed why this one took so long

are you waiting for ceramic bezel? look at it closly, i think it's looses the daytona'ess. tryiing to be too modern and the subdials outer ring is too bright next to black face AND black bezel. your call. if you dont want the ceramic bezel, pm me. maybe you get special price.

Macca

Mooty. I hear your pain. Have been a watch guy for almost 3 decades with up to 24 pieces in the collection at one time including a number of vintage Rolex and Tudor Chronographs.

It saddens me to say that today I find my daily wear GMTII Ceramic (since 2009). too difficult to read. In the last 3 years my reading vision suffers. Also with Rolex I find their flat crystal and cyclops date distort the view. Very uncomfortable to read. First my Sew Dwellers left, then my Subbys and now my GMTs. The only Rolex I find relatively easy to read is a black dial Daytona. By next year they will all be gone. I am currently finding my Omega SpeedMaster Moon watch by far the easiest watch, and its always been one of the nicest feeling watches on my wrist (very comfortable). Nice big dial and the hesalite (plastic) plexi is domed and doesnt distort under bringht light so its easy to read even with aging eyes. One of my least expensive pieces is now my favouirte. Apart from that and a dressier watch for special occasions and a Rolex chrono thats all I will have now. There is simply no point owning these hings is you cant even see them to enjoy them as I did with young eyes. The DSSD like the Sea Dweller due to thick crystal is one of the harder ones to read...

Sorry for off topic

jo_ker

mhh ... 991R

why are selling 991.1Gt3RS that good? because they are fast? ... more because they are cool, fancy and safe in value or even more.
car performance increased heavily no way that you can "compete" on the streets as long you drive with 10% responsibility in the back of the mind. how many of the around 6.000 991.1RS will see with their first owner a racetrack? i guess around 20%. not more. how many are regular on the track? maybe 5%.

they will bring the GT2RS for laptimes.

why Porsch is pumping out so many 991.1GT3RS? because their customers (we) were pissed off in 2015 when they didn't want to take our 200k$; and this ww around 4.000times. do the math with around 15% profit margin.
to expand the production needs i guess minimum 6month for pre-sheduling so there is a huge gap between action and reaction.
what you can sell today you have to sell today. you can't risk to move such a press of people two year into future in such fast times.

EST

Yes,there's no GT2!
2 GT3RS starting December 2017 (one year production) and same time GT2RS (six months production)
And there's no 4000 or even more 1 GT3RS out there!

jo_ker

my info which leads me to cca. 6.000 ww is based on OEM supplier level info where amounts where doubled in end of 2015. i guess ! it was not included also the 2nd production extention.

how to find out?
i guess best via OEM supplier level. i had just ones an accidential blat out possibility...

EST

About 991 RS,it is not limited run by number but it is "limited run" by production time.How many cars will be produced we will know in October/November but it will be under 2500 worldwide.
For me my dealer told that this is the fact!

Laguna_Dude

i just picked up a new 991.1 RS; also have a 2017 C4S... the new 3.0 twin turbo has more ***** in lower revs vs. the RS; IMO, the new turbo motors are a game changer and Porsche would do well to put these in their GT cars sooner vs. later... the power is linear; but strong.. and lag is virtually non-existent... makes driving on street fun too.

GT3 KSA

I test drove the C2S and i did not like it in comparison to the 991 GT3

It was fast but i did feel lag compared to the NA GT3 I am comparing it to my Gt3 with dundon headers though so maybe that is the didference. Also to me Gt3 feels more stiff and gives you a race car feeling, whereas the C2S is more comfortable and luxurious, so this is probably another reason why i liked the Gt3 more.

The C2S does have a lot of torque though especially when you push that button on the steering wheel.

Laguna_Dude

Definitely would not change from GT3 to a C2S for track; but the C2S would be a better daily driver in terms of low-range power/torque and comfort.. but the new motor shows promise to raise the bar above the current performance level; what these N/A cars lack is low-end torque; with the turbos; if they can engineer to be linear with minimal lag; they will work great on track. Porsche has history of racing with turbo engines; i think it is a nice "next-step" before hybrid or full electric.