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Old 06-17-2016, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AC SATCO
GT-R has 50 hp more and also weighs 600lbs more

AWD eats power, RWD is less parasitic

Traction is not an issue off the line for the RS, back in 2009 the GTR was the bad boy of launch control but in 2016 the RS with the motor over the rear wheels and the best tranny in the game had no problem getting going

makes sense to me
I don't seek justification for the results. I seek clarification; how could the results make sense when it came out against every test record registered.

NISSAN GT-R
2008 Nissan GT-RCompare Car
0-60 mph 3.4 | Quarter mile 11.6 2009 Nissan GT-R Compare Car
0-60 mph 3.2 | Quarter mile 11.4 2011 Nissan GT-R Compare Car
0-60 mph 3.2 2012 Nissan GT-R Compare Car
0-60 mph 2.9 | Quarter mile 11.1 2013 Nissan GT-R Track Pack Compare Car
0-60 mph 2.7 2014 Nissan GT-R Compare Car
0-60 mph 2.9 | Quarter mile 11.0 2015 Nissan GT-R NISMO Compare Car
0-60 mph 2.7 | Quarter mile 10.8 2017 Nissan GT-R Compare Car
0-60 mph 2.9 | Quarter mile 11.0 2018 Nissan GT-R R36 Hybrid
0-60 To Be Released
http://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle...-60-mph-times/
http://accelerationtimes.com/models/...t-r-r35-550-ps

RS
http://accelerationtimes.com/models/...911-gt3-rs-991
http://fastestlaps.com/models/porsche-911-gt3-rs-991
Old 06-17-2016, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AC SATCO
LOL

I'm team Porsche, all the way. But 20k in a GT-R gets you a very very fast car, especially if you run E85, i wonder if you did this experiment who would win, but its so subjective and theres 1000 variables and options that could come into play.

My GT-R was brutal, literally too fast for me, i was going to get into trouble. The thing i hated the most was the low rev limit and short gears, sucked. I prefer NA!!
Agreed, prefer NA all the way. I understand their power/torque but never cared for turbos. I have never been a straight line kind of guy. Cornering, braking and downshifting (manual) now that's a driver.

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Old 06-17-2016, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by smookey
For twice the price, i do not consider Porsche performances incredible compared to the GTR. 4 seats, 100K, Nordschleife killer...and not so far from the RS, the Porsche Icon. That's a massive performance.
agree, it's nice it's quick but the GT-R can be bought for what some pay in options on Porsches.

also, as i stated previously, the GT-R is relatively unchanged since 2008. sure it's had some power/chassis updates but it's an old car underneath. that Porsche, 8 years later, can slightly edge it in a straight line isn't really that impressive.

im a fan of both cars but the performance on offer in a GT-R for the money is impressive for a road car. bear in mind a slightly used 2015 GT-R can be had for ~$70k.
Old 06-17-2016, 04:47 PM
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I have run a 2014 GTR against my GT3 from a dig with similar results, stock GTR's are not as fast as people think... and I have had one too.
Old 06-17-2016, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AC SATCO
I didn't analyze these results, but i think Nissan tests the GT-R and achieves their super numbers in the absolute most favorable conditions possible for the car, in the real world no one can get the stock GT-R to perform that well (i think)

while the RS and Porsche are clearly underrated and the car continually puts up better numbers in times and HP than the factory gives you.

just an opinion on how we got to this point in the discussion
Doesn't Evo even say in the video that they have never been able to duplicate Nissan's numbers?
Old 06-17-2016, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by HassaanAbdeen
I don't seek justification for the results. I seek clarification; how could the results make sense when it came out against every test record registered.

NISSAN GT-R
2008 Nissan GT-RCompare Car
0-60 mph 3.4 | Quarter mile 11.6 2009 Nissan GT-R Compare Car
0-60 mph 3.2 | Quarter mile 11.4 2011 Nissan GT-R Compare Car
0-60 mph 3.2 2012 Nissan GT-R Compare Car
0-60 mph 2.9 | Quarter mile 11.1 2013 Nissan GT-R Track Pack Compare Car
0-60 mph 2.7 2014 Nissan GT-R Compare Car
0-60 mph 2.9 | Quarter mile 11.0 2015 Nissan GT-R NISMO Compare Car
0-60 mph 2.7 | Quarter mile 10.8 2017 Nissan GT-R Compare Car
0-60 mph 2.9 | Quarter mile 11.0 2018 Nissan GT-R R36 Hybrid
0-60 To Be Released
http://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle...-60-mph-times/
http://accelerationtimes.com/models/...t-r-r35-550-ps
Those are Nissan factory lap times.

Theoretically replicable. Not actually replicable.

It's almost like the sub 7 minute P1 'Ring time.
Old 06-17-2016, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Those are Nissan factory lap times.

Theoretically replicable. Not actually replicable.

It's almost like the sub 7 minute P1 'Ring time.
Nissan uses a 1' roll-out for their numbers, and even then they're hard to hit...Porsche gives us everyday-case numbers, Nissan best case with a little head start.
Old 06-18-2016, 12:01 AM
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Impressive indeed. I remember racing a Carrea S back I. The day with my modded 3000GT VR4 and he beat me. Was very surprised. Porsche is much faster than people think. Love them!
Old 06-18-2016, 12:43 AM
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Great race between two automatics.
Old 06-18-2016, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Modena 1
Great race between two automatics.
Welcome to drag racing...
Old 06-23-2016, 01:38 PM
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Old 06-23-2016, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Those are Nissan factory lap times.

Theoretically replicable. Not actually replicable.

It's almost like the sub 7 minute P1 'Ring time.
What ring time? Oh you mean the cheater car that Nissan dialed in just for the ring? Nothing from Nissan is actually replicable when it comes to testing the GTR.

You should see the youtube comments about this video...The GTR fanboys seem to think that the tires are the one the reasons why the GTR lost, some think the traction control wasn't on, someone even thinks the driver was too fat and caused the GTR to lose, comical.
Old 06-23-2016, 03:18 PM
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GTRs are big, heavy, and ugly in my opinion. Great GT car if that is what you fancy. Also- they are not that cheap anymore
Old 06-23-2016, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 911Dreamer
What ring time? Oh you mean the cheater car that Nissan dialed in just for the ring?
So you must mean cheater "cars" correct because they've bested their previous Ring time with every iteration.

Originally Posted by 911Dreamer
Nothing from Nissan is actually replicable when it comes to testing the GTR
Orry?

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/s...r-1347840.html

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/e...t-2822697.html
Old 06-23-2016, 06:26 PM
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GTR is in desperate need of a revamp, been resting on its laurels far too long


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