CHADW

These are interesting times while we are in this transition. The turbo S is already probably faster than the RS around bigger tracks so I don't think the lap time comparison is necessarily a deal breaker for corporate to green light one more NA GT series. Especially if they can point to the human rowing gears as the only problem...

Keep in mind, they don't want to have a transmission option. It's just added complexity. I'm sure they are happy with PDK being superior.

Macca

Spot on for next GT3. I believe rpm limit will remain 8600. We won't see anything too radical this time around -Porsche are still recovering from the step function with the 991.1 GT3. Pretty sure that will be the last 9000 rpm screamer they will build before succumbing to turbo.....991.2 PDK for track and a manual for residuals! Glad I'm not going to have to make that decision because I'd probably choose PDK as the car is used on the track for me. Instead I'll be keeping my G engine 991.1 GT3 a while longer shortly with DMS headers, I'm still getting quicker with it on the track so I think I can get another few years fun from it and the set up is improving too. Actually I would be surprised once the DMS headers are on and my DSC module I'd properly tuned, if the stock MT 991.2 GT3 will threaten it at all on the track...

Does the 911R have a hard limiter at 8600 in high gears like the RS? It certainly looks like the dashed orange bars on the RS tach have been replaced with red? Jack Olsen may be able to answer....

neanicu

Thanks for calling me a residual,you baby boomer!

Macca

Lol! I'm 30 years too young to be a "boomer"....

The residuals will be better on the MT cars. Always have ad always will since the days of 964 tipo.

The fact PAG have got away with the RS 8800 rpm headline is amazing. The journos are obviously not in a position to take them to task here. The R tacho sure looks like 8600 to me but I'm probably wrong?

Macca

Here's the manual in my G50 993 C2. This one is a real manual. Uses RS LWFC with ROW 21 gear set 6 speed, guards 60/40 diff, no TC or brake differential, no auto blip or "hold on shift" like the GT4, R and next 3. With this car on track upshifts have to be timed for both speed and sympathy, downshifts require good H&T to preserve synchros and the diff will chirp up a rear wheel if your ham fisted coming in to a corner too hot under brakes. Having driven a GT4 briefly in sport mode it felt more similar to my PDK than my G50. It was a very slick box and easy to drive. If PDK could have a little more emotion like Ferrari box then it could be the perfect all rounder. I love it on track, DD and touring, but find it a bit sterile on fast B roads unless wound our - compared t my 993 with G50 of course....

But I digress. Apologies. We should get this back on track...

neanicu

Lol! I raise you to no syncros and double clutching... Hey,we take what we can get these days... Best part is,you press a button and all that " help " gets deactivated. Win win. 8600 limit is cool for me,I'm a p**sy anyway and shift 500 before redline...

carcommander

I had a 993C2S for 11 years. It's Stone Age compared to my RS.

Macca

I hear you on the double clutching. However thats only something I have to resort to when Ive lost synchos on track (1.05 below 2/3 synch gone, kept catching me out!).

The 993 does feel ancient compared to the latest cars. My 993 is somewhere around RS-Cup spec. Its amazing how quick it can be in the corners, the traces show little is lost in the tight stuff to the GT3 on a tight track, but in the straights its a different game...



Heres a blurb on the car from 2011.

neanicu

Oh yeah,she's fighting you...

That 997 is fast! Porsche always manages to make them faster with each gen...

Macca

997 is S with PCCB on R888 driven by 2005 NZ Porsche series winner who had driven that track before. Better driver than me for sure. My first time there so was well chuffed to stay within 1-200m of it for 10 laps...but it waked my 993 on the straight....:-)