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2017 991.2 release date?

Old 05-19-2016, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunny_M3
You don't think that the 991.2 GT3 would have a 9K redline?
Heard from a pretty good source it will not.
Old 05-19-2016, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CHADW
Why would they lower the redline if they stick in a 3.8L? They are revision 10 or something like that already and seem to finally have it figured out..
Because of the worldwide recall in 2014?

And even with the revisions from E to F to G, things still are unsettled enough that PAG lowered the redline in the RS to 8800, and it's a progressive redline up to 8800, not an absolute redline for all gears.
Old 05-19-2016, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Because of the worldwide recall in 2014?

And even with the revisions from E to F to G, things still are unsettled enough that PAG lowered the redline in the RS to 8800, and it's a progressive redline up to 8800, not an absolute redline for all gears.
As you say, that's what the revisions were for. Porsche would have a hard time making more power with a lower redline at the same 3.8L.

The 4.0L has a lower redline because the geometry causes a higher piston speed at the same rpm and peak power occurs lower.

There is zero chance the dot 2 is going to be inferior to the 1.
Old 05-19-2016, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Because of the worldwide recall in 2014?

And even with the revisions from E to F to G, things still are unsettled enough that PAG lowered the redline in the RS to 8800, and it's a progressive redline up to 8800, not an absolute redline for all gears.
So I was making out with the cleaning lady last night and after a couple of glasses of red, she whispered in my ear that you were wrong...

I'm just repeating... Don't shoot the messenger.
Old 05-20-2016, 12:32 AM
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How the heck is a GT3 supposed to content with the speculated 380lbft of torque for a gen 2 GTS on the track? Heck even the 368lbft for the S as stated is beyond what any next gen GT3/RS can muster even with a 4.2 power unit! Torque will be the biggest headache for the GT team in this new era. A PDK 450 BHP/380lbft GTS on TrofeoR will give a 9.2 4.0L 500 BHP/340 lbft GT3 a close run for its money at the track with a skilled driver?
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Originally Posted by RealityGT
I'll take 4.0L, 8k rpm and some big power under that curve, Mr Andreas Preuninger... (in case you're reading.)

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Old 05-20-2016, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Macca
How the heck is a GT3 supposed to content with the speculated 380lbft of torque for a gen 2 GTS on the track? Heck even the 368lbft for the S as stated is beyond what any next gen GT3/RS can muster even with a 4.2 power unit! Torque will be the biggest headache for the GT team in this new era. A PDK 450 BHP/380lbft GTS on TrofeoR will give a 9.2 4.0L 500 BHP/340 lbft GT3 a close run for its money at the track with a skilled driver?
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Old 05-20-2016, 03:25 AM
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The 991.2 is already in my budget. I'm assuming 117,500 trade in on my 991.1 GT3 with an msrp of 150k. Should still be less than 10k miles by then. I rather be pleasantly surprised if I get more opposed to expect it will keep holding value.
Old 05-20-2016, 09:04 AM
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If .2 GT3 is turbo .1 GT3 instant classic.

I think AP at Porsche and his team just read this forum and laugh. Not nice Mr. P.
Old 05-20-2016, 10:21 AM
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I have a hard time believing the .2 will have 9k especially if the go manual. They will need a lil cushion for those mechanical over revs. Otherwise there will be way too many money shifts.
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Regardless of redline, there is a rev limiter...
Old 05-20-2016, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by CHADW
Regardless of redline, there is a rev limiter...
Rev limiter doesn't help with a money shift..
Old 05-20-2016, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RealityGT
Rev limiter doesn't help with a money shift..
Yes, but lowering the redline by 200 rpm does nothing for this either.

With the wider ratios of the 6spd, the car will not be nearly as frenetic to shift compared to PDK-S. It would be just fine with 9k redline (assuming the engine mechanicals are up to it).
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Yes, but lowering the redline by 200 rpm does nothing for this either.

With the wider ratios of the 6spd, the car will not be nearly as frenetic to shift compared to PDK-S. It would be just fine with 9k redline (assuming the engine mechanicals are up to it).
8800 on RS with PDK-S.. I would imagine manual would be 8krpm.
Also, I don't think many of you are taking into account that 3.8L 9krpm, is much different from having 4.0L with 9krpm.. Different beast.
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Originally Posted by RealityGT
8800 on RS with PDK-S.. I would imagine manual would be 8krpm.
I think you are low-balling by a wide margin. Look at the 911R - manual with 4.0L and 8,800 rpm. No reason 991.2 GT3 should be any less...

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