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OT: Looks like 991.2 GTS is NOT going to be NA anymore

Old 04-14-2016, 08:32 AM
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Default OT: Looks like 991.2 GTS is NOT going to be NA anymore

Not sure what it means for 991.2 GT3...hopefully NO impact

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/04/con...-facelift.html
Old 04-14-2016, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mclarenmaniac
Not sure what it means for 991.2 GT3...hopefully NO impact

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/04/con...-facelift.html
Article says GT3 exempt.
Old 04-14-2016, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mclarenmaniac
Not sure what it means for 991.2 GT3...hopefully NO impact

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/04/con...-facelift.html
Let's hope not.
Old 04-14-2016, 09:33 PM
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We knew the GTS would be turbo a year ago.

Only the "real" GT cars might stay NA, the GT3, GT3RS, and GT4,
not the GTS Carrera, Cayman, Boxster, and cayenne.
Old 04-15-2016, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Drifting
We knew the GTS would be turbo a year ago.

Only the "real" GT cars might stay NA, the GT3, GT3RS, and GT4,
not the GTS Carrera, Cayman, Boxster, and cayenne.
+1

This really is no surprise. Sadly.
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The way forward for 911 GTs is FI. It's going to happen. AP has already said the 911 GT is about ultimate lap times. I think the next GT2 is going to change some minds.
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
The way forward for 911 GTs is FI. It's going to happen. AP has already said the 911 GT is about ultimate lap times. I think the next GT2 is going to change some minds.
Agreed. There should still be NA GT3 / RS variants in the 991.2, but the 991.2 GT2 RS will really show the world what Porsche can do. And that'll be critical considering I doubt there will be any NA 992's.
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How is this even news?
Old 04-15-2016, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
How is this even news?
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The media never ceases to amaze me in news fabrication.
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
The way forward for 911 GTs is FI. It's going to happen. AP has already said the 911 GT is about ultimate lap times. I think the next GT2 is going to change some minds.
agree in general, I just hope it shakes out like the manual issue in that there will be a NA option, just like many people wanted a manual option.


I like the theory that's been thrown around lately--


Porsche will keep the GT3 naturally aspirated (forever) and make it available with PDK-S AND and manual option (forever)

The RS will eventually morph into just an ultimate lap time track car, and will simultaneously be an RS and GT2, basically a monster turbo only, PDK-S only GT2RS that will obliterate ring lap times, and throw down well with the 488 and 650S, all while being the halo car for the entire Porsche lineup, as all other Porsche vehicles will be turbos.

Meanwhile, Porsche will appease their long-time enthusiast drivers by always keeping a NA GT3 around with a manual option (and PDK-S), and they will keep producing a NA manual GT4 as their entry level GT car to bring younger/poorer buyers into the brand.

Sounds like a good marketing strategy to me

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Originally Posted by Drifting
agree in general, I just hope it shakes out like the manual issue in that there will be a NA option, just like many people wanted a manual option.


I like the theory that's been thrown around lately--


Porsche will keep the GT3 naturally aspirated (forever) and make it available with PDK-S AND and manual option (forever)

The RS will eventually morph into just an ultimate lap time track car, and will simultaneously be an RS and GT2, basically a monster turbo only, PDK-S only GT2RS that will obliterate ring lap times, and throw down well with the 488 and 650S, all while being the halo car for the entire Porsche lineup, as all other Porsche vehicles will be turbos.

Meanwhile, Porsche will appease their long-time enthusiast drivers by always keeping a NA GT3 around with a manual option (and PDK-S), and they will keep producing a NA manual GT4 as their entry level GT car to bring younger/poorer buyers into the brand.

Sounds like a good marketing strategy to me


What s the point to have / who would buy
a future GT3 that is not raced ??? They switched the GTS not BC they don t have buyers of GTS NA...same reasons impacting either the GT3...

for air cooled and/or NA
there s Singer or RUF or used market
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Originally Posted by fxz
for air cooled and/or NA
there s Singer or RUF or used market
I think the crazy prices that the old air-cooled cars are bringing (as well as Singer and Ruf) is a main supporting argument for cars like the 911R and Driftiing's theory. Porsche wants that part of the market too...
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Originally Posted by Drifting
agree in general, I just hope it shakes out like the manual issue in that there will be a NA option, just like many people wanted a manual option.


I like the theory that's been thrown around lately--


Porsche will keep the GT3 naturally aspirated (forever) and make it available with PDK-S AND and manual option (forever)

The RS will eventually morph into just an ultimate lap time track car, and will simultaneously be an RS and GT2, basically a monster turbo only, PDK-S only GT2RS that will obliterate ring lap times, and throw down well with the 488 and 650S, all while being the halo car for the entire Porsche lineup, as all other Porsche vehicles will be turbos.

Meanwhile, Porsche will appease their long-time enthusiast drivers by always keeping a NA GT3 around with a manual option (and PDK-S), and they will keep producing a NA manual GT4 as their entry level GT car to bring younger/poorer buyers into the brand.

Sounds like a good marketing strategy to me
Doesn't completely compute to me. The next GT3 will have to be FI to keep up. They sold the swing towards playstation dynamics and go-fast gizmos as necessary to stay competitive. The GT4 and 911R were for the "purists" who want fun over speed. It would make far more sense for the MA1 GT3 engine to make it's way into the next GT4, and the GT3 to get a 600hp FI motor and possibly AWD. But I guess they are masters at manipulating us - so I really have zero clue.
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
Doesn't completely compute to me. The next GT3 will have to be FI to keep up. They sold the swing towards playstation dynamics and go-fast gizmos as necessary to stay competitive. The GT4 and 911R were for the "purists" who want fun over speed. It would make far more sense for the MA1 GT3 engine to make it's way into the next GT4, and the GT3 to get a 600hp FI motor and possibly AWD. But I guess they are masters at manipulating us - so I really have zero clue.
They have to go turbo to keep up with Ferrari, McLaren and the rest; 500 hp and 325-350 torque in the future are woefully inadequate in the context of the performance that the competition will be able to extract from turbo engines.
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