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Old 03-25-2016, 09:58 PM
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As to the quality of parts for Kit 1, looking at that proposed kit, I would suggest as follows:

One-Piece Forged Magnesium Wheels - to be desined and made by BBS Racing (the supplier of 918 magnesiujm wheels) and, as such, better than OE and lighter

Lightweight Alternator - better than OE and lighter

Lightweight Starter - at least equal to OE and lighter

DR-25 (M Spec) Wiring Harness - better wire and better connectors than OE and lighter

Lightweight Specialty Alloy Rear Axles with 10 Ceramic Ball CVs - better than OE and lighter

Carbon Fiber Retractable Rear Spoiler - better than OE and lighter

Carbon Fiber Induction System - at least equal to OE and lighter

Carbon Fiber Oil Tank - at least equal to OE and lighter

Lightweight Hoses - better than OE and lighter

Aluminum Metal Matrix Composite Engine Pulleys - at least equal to OE and lighter

Wire Electro-Discharge Machined Specialty Alloy Transmission Output Flanges - better than OE and lighter

Titanium Suspension Springs - better than OE and lighter

Carbon Fiber Anti Roll Bars - at least equal to OE and lighter

Full Titanium Exhaust - at least equal to OE and lighter

Titanium Front Hood and Engine Compartment Lid Hinges - better than OE and lighter

And, of course, much of the above will fit GT3 and GT3 RS.

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Old 03-26-2016, 01:10 AM
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Anyone know the weight of the Ruf SCR 4.2 that was shown at the Geneva show?
Old 03-26-2016, 03:56 AM
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Ruf website says 1190 kg = 2618 lbs. Not clear if that if wet or dry. In any event, I like the look of the 964 far better without the Ruf front and rear bumpers. Indeed, as a dream, I would like a 2000 lbs 964 with a 500 HP normally aspirated air cooled engine.
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Originally Posted by Robert Linton
Ruf website says 1190 kg = 2618 lbs. Not clear if that if wet or dry. In any event, I like the look of the 964 far better without the Ruf front and rear bumpers. Indeed, as a dream, I would like a 2000 lbs 964 with a 500 HP normally aspirated air cooled engine.
Well I have a few 964s that I would like to throw in your 500hp engine too!
Old 03-26-2016, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Linton
...I would like a 2000 lbs 964 with a 500 HP normally aspirated air cooled engine.
+964
Old 03-26-2016, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Linton
Indeed, as a dream, I would like a 2000 lbs 964 with a 500 HP normally aspirated air cooled engine.
Originally Posted by 911Jetta
+964
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Old 03-26-2016, 11:48 AM
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Candidly, we will run the revised 2-valve engine in a few weeks. The 4-valve head is already in design.
Old 04-03-2016, 04:23 PM
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I have now received the alternator and the starter used in the R/RS and there is significant weight saving oppotunity there.
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This evening I spent some time looking at complete titanium exhaust systems for the R. In short, they are quite good, far better than I expected, and should save approximately 10kg. Additionally, I have asked if it was possible to make a thin wall version, which would save yet additional weight.
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No one has commented in some time, but I am confident that several hundred pounds can be taken off the car.
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robert what do you think kit 1 will be worth weight wise? and will this be a DIY kit package?
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Originally Posted by Robert Linton
No one has commented in some time, but I am confident that several hundred pounds can be taken off the car.
Don't worry, we're all waiting and watching intently....
Old 04-05-2016, 07:09 PM
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I estimate Kit 1 would save between 110 lbs and 125 lbs. Though I never thouight of it as DIY, below are the potential parts with the ones that could be, potentially, so marked:

One-Piece Forged Magnesium Wheels - DIY

Lightweight Alternator - possible DIY but better a shop

Lightweight Starter - possible DIY but better a shop

DR-25 (M Spec) Wiring Harness - shop

Lightweight Specialty Alloy Rear Axles with 10 Ceramic Ball CVs - possible DIY but better a shop

Carbon Fiber Retractable Rear Spoiler - shop

Carbon Fiber Induction System - possible DIY but better a shop

Carbon Fiber Oil Tank - possible DIY but better a shop

Lightweight Hoses - possible DIY but better a shop

Aluminum Metal Matrix Composite Engine Pulleys - possible DIY but better a shop

Wire Electro-Discharge Machined Specialty Alloy Transmission Output Flanges - possible DIY but better a shop

Titanium Suspension Springs - possible DIY but better a shop

Carbon Fiber Anti Roll Bars - possible DIY but better a shop

Full Titanium Exhaust - possible DIY but better a shop

Titanium Front Hood and Engine Compartment Lid Hinges - possible DIY but better a shop

Candidly, much depends upon how good a mechanic one is, the level of tools and access to such information as bolt torque you have. If it were me, I would have a porofessional do everything.

Finally, for Kit 1, I am looking into the possibility of a carbon clutch that might save another 10 or so pounds of rotating weight.
Old 04-10-2016, 02:51 PM
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The more I think of it, the more a carbon carbon clutch should be included with Kit 1.

Also, as I think about exhausts, perhaps, depending upon the component, titanium, inconel and/or 321 stainless could be be included in some combination.
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Originally Posted by Robert Linton
The more I think of it, the more a carbon carbon clutch should be included with Kit 1.
Any option for GT3/RS automatic?

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