Nizer

Not installing the plates is mickey mouse because most that install a cage will use sub-optimal mounting points such as seat belt mounting bolt.

Not including the roll cage is one thing - even though BMW seems to have sorted it - but not including factory installed mounting plates is indefensible and outright dangerous.

Guest89

Not installing the plates is probably done for some combination of (1) extreme aversion to liability (ie, how can you sue Porsche because you bumped your noggin on a rollbar that you had to tear up carpet and weld inside the car to install) and (2) culture (I don't think they expect people to circumvent their intent and weld in plates anyway after delivery).

Footsoldier

Black with Weissach has the same carbon strips on the bonnet as other colours. It is not all CF.

Whoopsy

This.

In their defence the North American cars are not designed to have the cage in the first place.

The Feds can't go after them.

Had they left the reinforcements on the body while omitting the cage, then it would be a no brainer to just order the parts and reinstalling them, side stepping the Feds and became liable to future lawsuits.

This is not Porsche's fault that DoT left an ancient clause in their regulations about unpadded surfaces inside a car in case a unbelted occupant hits it during a collision.

C.J. Ichiban

In regards to 3.8L Ricardo Design Engine: it is not and was not a street car engine. It was a Prototype engine from the glory days that in period made 800+HP.

Equivalent to 962C, CLK-GTR, type cars.

Whoopsy

Even if all the 918 owners kept their cars, the VIP program only covers 330 cars max. As the VIP program only appears in the US and Canada. So even for the highly contested 911R, there were at least 661 cars that went to non-VIP program buyers.

For RoW without VIP program, the selling dealers are the one deciding who gets a car.

In Canada, the VIP program runs differently than in the US, there is no 3/10 year period, the moment one sells their 918 the first dib privilege is gone, from memory there should only be about 15 left of out the initial 30, and there actually isn't 30 to start with, a few bought 2 cars, and one burnt down his not long after taking delivery.

In the US, they have this 3/10 year period, and the first cars are just coming up on 3 years ownerships, majority are still not there yet. For those that sell before 3 years but after 6 months, they get 3 years after their selling date, these guys are still in the program. But the VIP program also kicked out a bunch of people for abusing the program, and the current count is somewhere close to 250.

Basically, for any given Porsche specialty cars, only like 265 is already spoken for, while the rest is controlled by greedy dealers to flip.

Hothonda

Possibly some other insights on the GT2RS

https://www.stuttcars.com/porsche-mo...11/991/gt2-rs/

d00d

Exactly, if BMW can do it so can Porsche.
They're essentially telling NA buyers that our GTs are for show, and to go buy a CS or Cup if we want to take it on the track.

GT288

Good find! And the last part was its not a limited edition car. I think the thing is the price will scare a lot of people away as many have stated already. The options for other cars in that price range is pretty good. So hopefully you won't show up to a car and coffee event and see 12-25 GT2 RS out there. But I find it strange it seems like nobody has any real solid answer on this car.

Its apparent my broker lied to me about selling a contract. And if you 918 owners don't even know about it which I was told by my local dealership earlier. Porsche is probably just laughing at all the people going nuts over this car to see how many they can sell.

TRAKCAR

Welding plates in my brand new RS back in 2010.
The 991 only needs plates like this again, assuming we could buy the bar?

BTW the car is now for sale with 35K miles on it..

GT288

Man I really hope you do whatever it takes to get a 2RS.

Cookie991

I dunno, trying to get Congress to address the issue of Roll Cages while people are dying on the floor of their offices might take a while...

I agree with Nizer, Porsche removing the mounts is indefensible and says to the market they'd rather have customers hurt themselves than potentially increase their liability.

Is it time for a Petition? Pad the cage, get us to sign something, do what you've gotta do PAG. BMW is showing you up and slowly stealing your faithful.

B

Waxer

They should make CS package available in a box.

Will PTS be available?

wegentop

Price in Australia after I spec

Cookie991

That's nuts, expensive Roll Cage

I moved to the US from Melbourne 4 years ago, basically sold my 997 TT and bought a GT3 & Turbo Cayenne with the money...