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Old 01-02-2017, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TomTomTom View Post
When I left in September we still had a myriad of PVS ("Produktionsvorserie" = Second to last prototypes before the "0-Serie") cars of the GT3 and they had everything...
Manual
Manual without wing (!)
PDK-S
3,8l engine
4,0l engine
....

Even the "standard" engineers at my department did not know for sure what options they would offer in the end.
At one point it was "GT3 standard = Manual w/o wing" and the Clubsport package would include the wing and PDK-S

I think they killed the Non-Wing version though, but I wouldn't put my money on it.

4,2l engine what I read somewhere is bogus. Not possible with that engine block "safely".

I'd guess that they put the 4,0l engine from the RS with ~490hp (or even the same as RS/R with 500hp) in it.
Wow, interesting. Thanks for the info.

With all these different combos they were testing, that might explains why some of our cleaning ladies's info varies so widely.
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Old 01-02-2017, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Igooz View Post
Interns at PAG must not be required to sign NDAs? Or is this the cleaning lady dressed as an intern.

Either way, do tell. And don't worry, the Feds are only investigating the diesel side of the house.
Did he say something more than

GT2RS is 650 or more HP

GT3 is maybe 3.8 maybe 4.0 maybe with or maybe without a wing

GT3 .2 RS dont know


shocking news to need an NDA?

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Old 01-02-2017, 06:38 PM
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Thank you for the input Tom, some of us appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by TomTomTom View Post
Hey everyone,
I finished an internship at Porsche Motorsport a couple of months ago.

Cannot tell a lot but you guys can expect 650+ HP.
There will be no GT2, only a RS

The Technical Project Leader (the guy below AP) gave the following spec requirement for the engine to "our" engine department: "If I am driving on the Autobahn at 300kph and then hit full throttle, I need to feel a punch in the back".

So it should be fun
not sure there are any road cars that can do 300kph and still have enough throttle left to give another shove. A 918 certainly can't do that (unless marginally)- and I've driven one at 325kph on the Autobhan...
the last few kph need quite a lot of space, with foot pressed to the floor
With a big 2RS wing on the back, seems unlikely

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Originally Posted by TomTomTom View Post
When I left in September we still had a myriad of PVS ("Produktionsvorserie" = Second to last prototypes before the "0-Serie") cars of the GT3 and they had everything...
Manual
Manual without wing (!)
PDK-S
3,8l engine
4,0l engine
....

Even the "standard" engineers at my department did not know for sure what options they would offer in the end.
At one point it was "GT3 standard = Manual w/o wing" and the Clubsport package would include the wing and PDK-S

I think they killed the Non-Wing version though, but I wouldn't put my money on it.

4,2l engine what I read somewhere is bogus. Not possible with that engine block "safely".

I'd guess that they put the 4,0l engine from the RS with ~490hp (or even the same as RS/R with 500hp) in it.
Thanks for the info Tom.
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Originally Posted by TomTomTom View Post
When I left in September we still had a myriad of PVS ("Produktionsvorserie" = Second to last prototypes before the "0-Serie") cars of the GT3 and they had everything...
Manual
Manual without wing (!)
PDK-S
3,8l engine
4,0l engine
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Even the "standard" engineers at my department did not know for sure what options they would offer in the end.
At one point it was "GT3 standard = Manual w/o wing" and the Clubsport package would include the wing and PDK-S

I think they killed the Non-Wing version though, but I wouldn't put my money on it.

4,2l engine what I read somewhere is bogus. Not possible with that engine block "safely".

I'd guess that they put the 4,0l engine from the RS with ~490hp (or even the same as RS/R with 500hp) in it.
Thanks. I will keep your pre-edited post about the GT3RS cabrio special UV edition strictly confidential.
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This could explain rosenbergendo's normally very attendable info then. Maybe they started with a 4.0 and then went to 3.8?.. still can't understand how they would make the 991.2 GT3 desirable for upgrade without a power & torque increase from the 991.1 GT3. This is definitely an interesting one. My 2c bet based on info I had received months ago and my own sense of logic is there needs to be a displacement increase.. but some really good quality conflicting info here. Fun data point to find out about come march.
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Great info, finally the curtain gets pulled back a bit. Can't wait for Geneva.
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If its 3.8 they will hype the manual as the major upgrade, not the 15 hp increase in the 3.8.
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Originally Posted by rosenbergendo View Post
If its 3.8 they will hype the manual as the major upgrade, not the 15 hp increase in the 3.8.
.......along with how they have improved downforce slightly (both front and rear) without adding drag with exterior changes.
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Originally Posted by CAlexio View Post
My 2c bet based on info I had received months ago and my own sense of logic is there needs to be a displacement increase.. but some really good quality conflicting info here. Fun data point to find out about come march.
I thought we were expecting a press release way before March (some previous rumors indicated this next Monday)????
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Are we talking about 991.2gt3 or 991gt2rs?
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Originally Posted by 997rs4.0 View Post
Are we talking about 991.2gt3 or 991gt2rs?
Sorry, I think the discussion was off-topic onto the GT3 and I kept it going off-track (I was referring to 991.2 GT3).
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Thanks for sharing important info

Originally Posted by TomTomTom View Post
Hey everyone,
I finished an internship at Porsche Motorsport a couple of months ago.

Cannot tell a lot but you guys can expect 650+ HP.
There will be no GT2, only a RS

The Technical Project Leader (the guy below AP) gave the following spec requirement for the engine to "our" engine department: "If I am driving on the Autobahn at 300kph and then hit full throttle, I need to feel a punch in the back".

So it should be fun
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Originally Posted by rosenbergendo View Post
If its 3.8 they will hype the manual as the major upgrade, not the 15 hp increase in the 3.8.
If they do a 3.8L then it'll be a MEH thing for me and will cool my jets in wanting to get the car (I'm sure I won't be alone either).
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