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Old 07-15-2016, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by doubleurx
Well FWIW, the majority of us GT3 owners have had zero issues so far. Other than the original stop sale, my GT3 has been flawless.

We only hear of the failures on this thread which everyone should realize is a very small percentage of the overall cars out there. I've still got several years of warranty left, so I'm not to worried about anything yet. Hopefully in that time we can narrow down the issue and get all these amazing cars to be as flawless as possible for everyone.
And this is the kind of response that gives Porsche reason to say "see, most don't care"......thanks for that.
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He's not saying he doesn't care, he's saying he hasn't had issues, along with the majority of owners. Big difference.

I'm not thinking about it until something happens. Until then it's a get out and drive the car (and hard on the track) mentality. Otherwise how can you enjoy the wonderfulness of the GT3?
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Originally Posted by doubleurx
Well FWIW, the majority of us GT3 owners have had zero issues so far. Other than the original stop sale, my GT3 has been flawless.

We only hear of the failures on this thread which everyone should realize is a very small percentage of the overall cars out there. I've still got several years of warranty left, so I'm not to worried about anything yet. Hopefully in that time we can narrow down the issue and get all these amazing cars to be as flawless as possible for everyone.
Originally Posted by KINGSRULE
And this is the kind of response that gives Porsche reason to say "see, most don't care"......thanks for that.
I think you're reading doublerux's response wrong; or perhaps you just didn't read it.

Nothing was said to suggest that people don't care. In fact, people probably care too much.

I think the point that was trying to be made by doublerux is that if you read these forums enough you start to believe these cars will simply break apart in a stiff wind.

Just not the case.

Yes, there have been issues. And many of them. And for the most part Porsche has addressed them.

There will always be issues with mechanical things like cars. We shouldn't be concerned so much with whether the car will break down, but whether and how Porsche responds when the car does break down.
Old 07-15-2016, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by doubleurx
Well FWIW, the majority of us GT3 owners have had zero issues so far. Other than the original stop sale, my GT3 has been flawless.

We only hear of the failures on this thread which everyone should realize is a very small percentage of the overall cars out there. I've still got several years of warranty left, so I'm not to worried about anything yet. Hopefully in that time we can narrow down the issue and get all these amazing cars to be as flawless as possible for everyone.
I do not disagree. I had no issues with my GT3 other than the original "stop sale" that my car sat at the port but Porsche kept me whole and the replacing of the Thermostat which I am not hearing any more issues from others' so hopefully this has been rectified.

My trade to the GT4 was more motivated by returning to the third peddle, and I have always found the Cayman to be the prettier of them both dating back to my first Porsche in 2006 which was a Cayman S. The GT3 is awesome and may trade back when they put a Manual in it but the GT4 would be very difficult to surrender now because it has spoiled me

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I do really care or I wouldn't even be reading this thread. I love this car, and I want the potential issues addressed by all means. I was more addressing the comments that make the car sound like it is an unreliable piece of crap. Heck even most of those that had the major issues come up were able to drive it to the dealership.

Also I just realized I forgot about my coolant hose blowing off, so I guess I did have one issue. It was the main hose on top of the motor that has a clamp. The clamp was simply not engaged and it wiggled free...............doh! Boys at the factory installing the new motor a little too quickly?
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Originally Posted by KINGSRULE
So now you can/cannot LFB,RFB, engage cruise control, can't drive around town...WTF,? Can't get a PET. Where are the end of the faults in this car?

This is a Porsche GT car! Heck its a Porsche, period. It should have been completely sorted before it was sold. I understand the bad rod bolts but you cannot convince me Porsche didn't know about the valve train issues, poor oiling , plastic bracket in PDK, etc. All pointing to poor designs. These are MAJOR issues, not some recall for a rattle!

These all had to crop up in the mileage testing. It appears more and more like this model was rushed to market. I'm willing to say Porsche bet on the larger tolerance P car owners seem to have regarding major faults and repairs and took a gamble and released this car not ready. (Gotta keep the #1 profit automaker status)!

The only thing that should satisfy all of us is FULL DISCLOSURE from Porsche on all of these things and a plan to resolve them for every owner....
Thank you. Its amazing what people will put up with. Every single engine porsche produces has one issue or another. Its unreal that people consider this company a pinnacle of engineering. They build **** and charge out the *** for it. Its truly pathetic.

Originally Posted by doubleurx
Well FWIW, the majority of us GT3 owners have had zero issues so far. Other than the original stop sale, my GT3 has been flawless.

We only hear of the failures on this thread which everyone should realize is a very small percentage of the overall cars out there. I've still got several years of warranty left, so I'm not to worried about anything yet. Hopefully in that time we can narrow down the issue and get all these amazing cars to be as flawless as possible for everyone.
It will be perfect until its not. Have you examined your rockers or camshafts? Do you know what condition they are in? Perhaps in another 100 miles you will have a major issue arise.

Luckily all this stuff has come up prior to the end of the warranty period. Porsche goodwill is an oxymoron.
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Quad,how are your 993TT and 997TT doing? Lol!
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Originally Posted by neanicu
Quad,how are your 993TT and 997TT doing? Lol!
They are fine. But i'm sure my 993 valve guides are worn, and my 997 is a few miles away from a spun camshaft sleeve or water fitting issue.

I mean I'm not expecting toyota sedan levels of reliability here, but these are basic engineering/material quality scenarios that porsche seems to continuously have issues with. maybe its purposeful to drive their service departments. who knows.
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Originally Posted by KINGSRULE
So now you can/cannot LFB,RFB, engage cruise control, can't drive around town...WTF,? Can't get a PET. Where are the end of the faults in this car? This is a Porsche GT car! Heck its a Porsche, period. It should have been completely sorted before it was sold. I understand the bad rod bolts but you cannot convince me Porsche didn't know about the valve train issues, poor oiling , plastic bracket in PDK, etc. All pointing to poor designs. These are MAJOR issues, not some recall for a rattle! These all had to crop up in the mileage testing. It appears more and more like this model was rushed to market. I'm willing to say Porsche bet on the larger tolerance P car owners seem to have regarding major faults and repairs and took a gamble and released this car not ready. (Gotta keep the #1 profit automaker status)! The only thing that should satisfy all of us is FULL DISCLOSURE from Porsche on all of these things and a plan to resolve them for every owner....
Yes u may be re,actively new to Porsche. Every Porsche I've owned over 20 years has a weakness in design apparent over time. The plastic bracket in the PDK has been there since 2011 and as far as I'm aware the PDK transmission has proven to date very reliable. The weakness in design may even have been addressed in the PDK production already. The gearbox specialist I spoke with had torn down a 2012 box for inspection. The LFB issue with the brake switch has only been mentioned by three folks on this board since the board started so I would not say its wide spread. I often LFB my car and never had an issue. I suspect it's something to do with cruise control hardware/software and I don't have cruise control. When you consider the number of GT3 on this board and others infrequent and the use these cars are getting on road and track (they are on average doing much more mileage than prior GT3 generations) then comparatively the sues are very minor as there were issues with prior gen GT3 as well (my 996 GT3 suffered from split header tanks, noisy rear diff with frequently worn diff plates and an interior that wore way too quickly, brakes that weren't quite up to the task and a failed abs unit). The 993 suffers accelerated valve guide sleeves and on US cars the SAI system causes accelerated carbonisation of the ports etc. anyone who has been in this game long enough knows these are things that happen. The single stand out area of reliability concern for the 991 GT3 was the E/F engine Maladys the subject of discussion here...
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Originally Posted by levd
Got my baby back. G-d, I almost forgot how beautiful it looks and drives! I don't know any other car like this. Engine rebulid took 2 months and 1 week. Could be quicker, but new upper part from PAG was defective, so they needed to get additional parts and repair it. Bad luck. Dealer will try to negotiate some compensation for me from PAG. They said worst scenario is I'll get some coupons for Porsche Driver's Selection, as PAG gives some to dealers for promotional purpose. I would really hate it, but I mostly unlucky with lotteries, so there's a chance I'll just get another Martini umbrella (the last one only survived for 5 minutes). Hopefully PAG will give me something better than merchandise coupons Learning back to RFB. Need to master it till Sunday, to feel comfortable on track. Seems far easier than learning LFB. So far. Really hope my transmission issue will be resolved with this. Thanks, Macca! As always, you're help is precious. Asked the dealer about 991.2 GT3. No new info.
Great to hear Levd. To be honest RFB is very easy to do, it's how 99% people drive 2 pedal and it will become natural almost instantly. It requires less relearning of the foot because the right foot is already accustomed to subtle pressure application from many years on the accelerator where as the left foot has historically only stabbed the clutch...

I hope you do better than a t shirt for compensation. Push hard on them.

I'm sure the engine will now be bullet proof with the new designed heads. Take it to the track and push it hard :-)
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Originally Posted by lessthan3mph
Thanks for all the info. I have learned so much from you, Macca, and others on here.
My pleasure mate, we are all in this together...
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When I buy a street legal race car I expect to experience some issues. I am just happy a company like Porsche builds such a machine, and warranties it for track use to boot!

But I also understand how frustrating it can be when problems arise. It sucks, especially for that money. I am just not willing to crucify Porsche for it. Essentially...

991 GT3...Best.Car.Ever.

Just not perfect.
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Originally Posted by lessthan3mph
Thanks for all the info. I have learned so much from you, Macca, and others on here.
Me as well. Thanks Macca!!!
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Originally Posted by levd
Got my baby back.

G-d, I almost forgot how beautiful it looks and drives! I don't know any other car like this.

Engine rebulid took 2 months and 1 week. Could be quicker, but new upper part from PAG was defective, so they needed to get additional parts and repair it. Bad luck.

Dealer will try to negotiate some compensation for me from PAG. They said worst scenario is I'll get some coupons for Porsche Driver's Selection, as PAG gives some to dealers for promotional purpose. I would really hate it, but I mostly unlucky with lotteries, so there's a chance I'll just get another Martini umbrella (the last one only survived for 5 minutes). Hopefully PAG will give me something better than merchandise coupons

Learning back to RFB. Need to master it till Sunday, to feel comfortable on track. Seems far easier than learning LFB. So far. Really hope my transmission issue will be resolved with this. Thanks, Macca! As always, you're help is precious.

Asked the dealer about 991.2 GT3. No new info.
Great to hear you finally have it back. You've certainly been put through the ringer and now let's hope for endless interruption.
Old 07-16-2016, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
Thank you. Its amazing what people will put up with. Every single engine porsche produces has one issue or another. Its unreal that people consider this company a pinnacle of engineering. They build **** and charge out the *** for it. Its truly pathetic. It will be perfect until its not. Have you examined your rockers or camshafts? Do you know what condition they are in? Perhaps in another 100 miles you will have a major issue arise. Luckily all this stuff has come up prior to the end of the warranty period. Porsche goodwill is an oxymoron.
Aren't you the negative nelly...Lol.

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