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Old 02-24-2016, 07:18 PM
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Dealer called me today and they said porsche only wants to replace camshafts, valves, heads, etc. I told them I want a new motor. Dealer said they prefer putting in new motor in as well...3 weeks at Dealer so far

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Old 02-24-2016, 07:36 PM
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'Crankshaft'? Cams right? My guess is after getting a few engines back for inspection they have found the DLC to be problematic in certain runs. If they have a more robust DLC process that is good. PAG is the only one that knows what the DLC particles have done to other parts of the engine.
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Originally Posted by carz80am View Post
Dealer called me today and they said porsche only wants to replace crankshafts, valves, heads, etc. I told them I want a new motor. Dealer said they prefer putting in new motor in as well...3 weeks at Dealer so far
An engine rebuild done by a dealer tech sounds like a recipe for a range of potential future issues...
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Old 02-24-2016, 08:25 PM
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'Crankshaft'? Cams right? My guess is after getting a few engines back for inspection they have found the DLC to be problematic in certain runs. If they have a more robust DLC process that is good. PAG is the only one that knows what the DLC particles have done to other parts of the engine.
yes, fixed it. I do think it will lead to problems in the future, I don't want a rebuild done at a dealership, I'm trying for a new motor
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Old 02-24-2016, 08:32 PM
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I agree. I'd want a new engine as well.

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Old 02-24-2016, 08:36 PM
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Damn right I'd want a new engine too. I plan on keeping this car for the long term, well past it's warranty period.
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Old 02-24-2016, 09:13 PM
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Damn right I'd want a new engine too. I plan on keeping this car for the long term, well past it's warranty period.
I don't know how long I'll keep it as I switch cars very often and may get an rs if they come down or 17 turbo s but I still want a new engine if not for me, for the next buyer.
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Old 02-25-2016, 12:52 AM
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Thanks for the update MBDark & Co.

I've been driving new G series engine two days now. It has the latest software update. Feels just like the old one to me. However I'm still keeping the rpm low and have only been running around town.

I had the DSC module installed today. So far only town driving but it certainly feels more compliant over the expansion joints and pot holes.

Will be going for a long fast run on Sunday so will update on both accordingly.

I'm surprised that PAG haven't offered to replace your engine. If it is F series there may be a reason for this but with E series I see no excuse other than they may be running short on units to ship at factory.

The other NZ car with the same issue as mine received its engine today as I was there, it was air freighted ex Germany within 14 days door to door and will be ready for the weekend for our Sunday run.

Here is the packing slip from the Box. According to the date stamp bottom left hand corner the engine was built mid Dec 2015 (2 months ago). That was after 991 GT3 production ceased I believe. Given it was ordered on 15 January it would have been 4 weeks old at that time. Lets hope it has every running change applied to it LOL!
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Old 02-25-2016, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by carz80am View Post
Dealer called me today and they said porsche only wants to replace camshafts, valves, heads, etc. I told them I want a new motor. Dealer said they prefer putting in new motor in as well...3 weeks at Dealer so far
Continue to fight for this. Do not let them set this precedent. This was precisely my fear that this would be their answer moving forward as these engines fail. I do not regret selling my 2014.
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Old 02-25-2016, 10:57 AM
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3 weeks at dealer is lemon law territory in CA as well. Will be well over lemon law once repairs/replacement made. Play this card..theyd likely rather keep a happy customer then have to buy-back car and attempt to resell with a branded title.

I do not know what the rules are in your part of the country, but I used this to my advantage in getting an engine replaced in my E90M, had a loaner the entire time the car was in the shop, and I was able to negotiate $5k cash on top for my trouble and time.
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Old 02-25-2016, 11:37 AM
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I would hate for them to force that hand but I would not accept a rebuild. I am very disappointed by all of this.
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Old 02-25-2016, 01:39 PM
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PCNA told me today that I would be getting compensation. Maybe a few car payments? They also said they didn't know if a Porsche engineer would come and do the repairs or just a dealer tech. I told them either way, I want a new motor, so we'll see what happens....
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Old 02-25-2016, 02:31 PM
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Someone remind me, how much does a crate motor cost?

I need to accelerate my track schedule, seemingly.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D View Post
Continue to fight for this. Do not let them set this precedent. This was precisely my fear that this would be their answer moving forward as these engines fail. I do not regret selling my 2014.

The 2014 E engine has been replaced when this occurs. Macca is a good example. I do not know of any 2014 where Porsche decided to just do the "top end". Maybe this will be the course of action for the 2015 F engine? Porsche has their plan of attack, and there isn't anything one can "force" them to do. The OP has an F engine in his 2015. Porsche has determined the best course of action is to not replace the engine. The car will still be worked on by a Porsche tech, and still be covered by warranty. These are cars we are talking about, not human beings. Not a life or death issue. If I offered someone a mint, low miles, 993 Turbo S for their 2015 GT3, everyone would jump at it. And that car would have much much less reliability than the GT3. Let Porsche work this out. The prudent thing to do is to keep all the info in one location (like Macca), so we can track the changes that Porsche is utilizing.
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Originally Posted by Ajax-Prime View Post
Someone remind me, how much does a crate motor cost?

I need to accelerate my track schedule, seemingly.
Someone at the dealership told me the motor was $42k. I have no idea if that's list, cost, what, but that's the number that was being thrown around...
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