<3mph

FWIW, my Canadian supplemental track manual (for GT3 only) contains the same warranty voiding clause as Macca's (page 2 is exactly the same as his). On the inner front cover it lists the item number as WKD 991 17 21 15, with a printing date of 04/14. Strange that the US and Canada are not the same either.

This whole thread has taken a turn towards the disturbing in my mind, and I hope it does not spell a significant reversal of policy for the 9A1 GT engine in all its forms.

(Moderators, perhaps it's time to bookmark this thread?)

Alan C.

Sadly or maybe not so sad the European market doesn't quite have the same litigation paths as we in the US.

Chris3936, be professional, gather data and hang tough.

Mech33

Now I need to go check my GT4 booklet...

Sean in Texas

Wow. This is complete BS.

ipse dixit

Not sure of how it works exactly in the EU, but in the U.S. a consumer (meaning you and me) generally wants to avoid arbitration in cases like this.

doubleurx

Wow, suddenly its not so bad to own a 2014 year. Mine has the same wording as Macca. Can 2015 owners confirm that clause on warranty was removed? If that is consistent on 2015 and 2016 manuals, I doubt it was a mistake in printing. And if it is consistent, it would be difficult to argue. I guess we should also know if there is anything in the warranty section about denial if used on a track?

robmypro

I hear you. The warranty booklet states that you do not have to go through arbitration, and it does not appear to be binding, but if you do go that route the findings of that process may impact you if you go the legal route after.

I tend to want to work things out first without going the legal route, so I would probably do arbitration first (if it ever came to that). In this case, Chris may ultimately have no choice but to hire an attorney, but here's hoping for a good outcome for him.

ipse dixit

You can't do both. You arbitrate or you litigate. Either / or.

robmypro

Page 8:

You must utilize Porsche's Cap-Motors arbitration program, administered by DeMars & Associates, Ltd., before seeking to enforce rights or obtain remedies in court under Title 1 of the Magnuson-Moss Consumer Warranty Act.

And...here is what I found in my MY 2015 Warranty Booklet:

Page 10, under This Warranty Does Not Cover...

Abuse, accidents, acts of God, competition, racing, track use, or other events.

neanicu

WOW WOW WOW!!!!

robmypro

More zingers...also on page 10, under This Warranty Does Not Cover:

- Dealer-installed accessories not distributed by PCNA
- Modifications not authorized by PCNA

Note 2: You should also be aware that PCNA may deny your warranty coverage if your vehicle or a part has failed due to abuse, neglect, improper maintenance or unapproved modifications.

I would not be driving up to the dealer with a modified exhaust if my CEL went on. If they can get out of covering the engine by pointing to these clauses, what luck are you going to have fighting it?

robmypro

This clause was removed on my 2015.

neanicu

This is mind blowing!!! Since when did they stop offering track warranty?!

Mods are a different story...that specification was there since forever and it's dealer dependent when it comes to reinforcing it.

robmypro

The bottom line is pretty clear here. Porsche will deny warranty coverage if they have any way out of it. And that means they better not see any modifications, and they better not know about any racing or track use.

The situation Chris is going through should make that crystal clear.

qbix

I am done with Porsche GT cars. Will put mine on sale before it's warranty expires and others figure out that this car is not for track days any longer. MY2015.

F%&* you porsche.