991 GT3 removing Clubsport Roll Cage ?
#1
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991 GT3 removing Clubsport Roll Cage ?
Can you simply unbolt and remove the 991 GT3 Clubsport Rear Rollcage if you don't track the car, to get a bit more seat legroom etc ?
#3
Unbolting the cage has no impact on legroom, only easy access to the rear. You would need to change/modify the seat rails to increase legroom. You must be very tall as I am 6'1" and my seat is not all the way back.
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Yes thx for input guys, I'm 6"6, test drove a GT3 non clubsport package version last week, which has plenty of leg room but I sat in a GT3 RS and it has not quite as much space. Furthermore I simply don't see the point of driving around on the road with a heavy roll cage in and would want access to the back as well
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Has anyone actually removed the rear roll cage & how long does it take is it a 1 hour job ? I'm a bit confused as most of us would be looking to save 5 KG with a lighter battery, so why are people driving around on the road with an extra 25 KG + apart from the fact that it may impress your mates on first look ?? The SOFA seats are indeed ugly but they are actually pretty comfy (from a man with carbon race seats in all 3 cars).
Last edited by Richard.; 12-28-2015 at 02:54 PM.
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So back to the additional 25 KG for those whose don't track their car, is this a head in sand thing, its not as if the 991 Gt3 is already a lightweight ?
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Wow. That's harsh, if serious.
The GT3 gives a substantially different driving experience for those that want and appreciate it, on road or track. I can well imagine there are people driving GT3s with no thought of tracking them and even less thought about how they appear to others. Personally, I think the car screams out to be used as a transcontinental touring car for two. It's a damned fine drive no matter where.
It has been well argued that the GT3 is not a true track car given its weight and the plethora of comfort and convenience goodies that have no place at a circuit, except perhaps in the parking lot. It's a GT car: grand touring; it is right there in the name. Even as a sports car class designation the cars to be homologated for track use must be mass produced specifically for road use.
One might suggest that if you have anything less than a Radical you aren't serious about the track. Yet clearly, and judging by all the posts of yours I have read with interest and enjoyment, you are. As well, we have all seen some most unlikely cars show up at the track and perform interestingly and even laudably; should they be banned from the track as road cars, their drivers labelled amateurs no matter what licenses and qualifications they hold? I'd vote no.
The GT3 gives a substantially different driving experience for those that want and appreciate it, on road or track. I can well imagine there are people driving GT3s with no thought of tracking them and even less thought about how they appear to others. Personally, I think the car screams out to be used as a transcontinental touring car for two. It's a damned fine drive no matter where.
It has been well argued that the GT3 is not a true track car given its weight and the plethora of comfort and convenience goodies that have no place at a circuit, except perhaps in the parking lot. It's a GT car: grand touring; it is right there in the name. Even as a sports car class designation the cars to be homologated for track use must be mass produced specifically for road use.
One might suggest that if you have anything less than a Radical you aren't serious about the track. Yet clearly, and judging by all the posts of yours I have read with interest and enjoyment, you are. As well, we have all seen some most unlikely cars show up at the track and perform interestingly and even laudably; should they be banned from the track as road cars, their drivers labelled amateurs no matter what licenses and qualifications they hold? I'd vote no.
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Kind of serious.
Its your money so do whatever, I am of the opinion that I never would buy a GT3 for street driving only, but some people strongly disagree and its their money and if they appreciate the capabilities of a GT3 and never use them, fine, their money. You can see the time on your I Phone or 100+K watch... You can drive to the mall in a G63 while admiring its 3 locking diffs while never get it dirty..
But someone who buys a Clubsport RS and puts in street seats rendering the CS package useless, he's a track poser because he can't ever use the scaffolding in the back.
I agree with OP, just dead weight.
His money, his choice to drive the GT3 on the street only or even just choosing to track it with a 3 point seat belt. Just not both at the same time.
Its your money so do whatever, I am of the opinion that I never would buy a GT3 for street driving only, but some people strongly disagree and its their money and if they appreciate the capabilities of a GT3 and never use them, fine, their money. You can see the time on your I Phone or 100+K watch... You can drive to the mall in a G63 while admiring its 3 locking diffs while never get it dirty..
But someone who buys a Clubsport RS and puts in street seats rendering the CS package useless, he's a track poser because he can't ever use the scaffolding in the back.
I agree with OP, just dead weight.
His money, his choice to drive the GT3 on the street only or even just choosing to track it with a 3 point seat belt. Just not both at the same time.
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each to their own but I would wager that at least 60% of GT3's will never see a track and there are probably many more suitable lighter track cars, if you are a serious track driver
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& u can uninstall and reinstall the roll cage with a few spanners, you don't need a welding gun to my knowledge, its a free option dragging it around in the car with you on public roads