991 GT3

I Know this is the water cooled GT3/RS dept but I respect the opinions of my fellow GT owners.
Without spending arm and a leg, what would be the best air cooled 911 to pick up to tool around in. 964 or 993. Those are escalating in value pretty quickly and especially if everything eventually goes forced induction. I'm sure quite a few GT guys have one or two in their stable.

Thanks for the insight /suggestions.

LexVan

There's a good active post now in the 993 Forum comparing the two.

Buy a 993 Turbo. Driving a normally aspirated 993 compared to a modern GT car will feel very-very slow. The 993 Turbo will have all the air cooled charm, classic 911 design, and stunning performance for a car with 20 year old tech.

mrsullivan

I'd get a 96-98 993 c2 or c2s
Best of the last. End of an era.
Not fast. But that's not the point with older air cooled cars. Still very enjoyable because so much driver involvement.

neanicu

993 TTs are way too expensive IMO.

I would buy a 964 cheap and do a complete restoration : wider body,rebuilt engine and some modern touches. Just like a Singer on a budget.
At least that's what I'm planning at some point...

P.S. Borrowed this pic from another Rennlist member.

991 GT3

Love that car. Like the duck tail a lot.

SHAG

I bought a 964 around two years ago to do this. Very expensive to do these mods.

LexVan

https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...-skirmish.html

NateOZ

964 c2 - just slowly take weight out of it and if you really want to do a tribute project check out Getty Designs. You can get CF coach work from pretty much any historic 911 that takes your fancy. A 74 IROC RSR, 73 Carrera RS etc.

LexVan

What is your budget, all in? This will help narrow down opinions.

997rs4.0

If you want hot rod, start with 964. If you are thinking lightly modded or stock? I would choose 993.
I own a 993tt. Bought it bone stock and turned it into a turbo R without the heart. 993 WB is one of the best looking Porsches IMO
Still have all stock parts boxed up. If ever need to sell I think it's nice for the next owner to have

Dream would be to build my own Singer when I get older. Need a straight car to begin with.

991 GT3

Thinking around 50-75k. Prob not lookin at a heavily modded, though that would be fun, more stock form with possibly an exhaust is all. Unless someone has modded a bit. I love the 993 Turbo's but who doesn't and the price dictates that of course. Seen some very expensive 993's.

Abby997

I'd get a 3.2 Carrera or a SC to tool around in. Do some basic upgrades like suspension and brakes, it would be an awesome driver.
I built a 87 Carrera for track, and it would be awesome to have one that's pretty much stock for the street. Really really fun little cars.

TorqueChap

I had both a '97 993TT and '98 c4s Aero. Both excellent cars. Ended up selling the C4 because, despite being gorgeous, it was insanely... slow. Lots of show but no go. This didn't matter to many but it matters to me. I'm a Torque Chap after all 😎

The 993TT isn't cheap but it's worth every penny.

Serge944

Here you go. I would get an 87-89 carrera as those have the G50 transmission. I would strongly advise against any air cooled turbo and against the 993, especially 96+ when it went OBD2.

FastLaneTurbo

My choice (and by far the "Best Buy") of a car to "tool around in" would be a 996 Turbo.
They are GREAT buys today at $40K - $60K and are bound to appreciate substantially in the next few years. Having owned several of them, they are comfortable, highly reliable, fast and easily tuned to keep pace with most of today's Supercars.