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Old 11-04-2015, 07:55 AM
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Default Very Very Very Bad News for the Brand!

The first signs of DieselGate hitting Porsche started yesterday with Cayenne Diesels being shelved and investigated and now this!! Trouble definitely looms!


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Thanks for sharing - sad news if true.
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Very sad. There are going to be big cuts in all of our favorite brand.
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As long as the GT road cars survive, they can do whatever they like with the 72 other variants of 911
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damnnn.. Is that possible???
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Originally Posted by 911rox
As long as the GT road cars survive, they can do whatever they like with the 72 other variants of 911
Ugh, first sign of what's to come now that Porsche is fully infected.

I don't know if a conservative recovery plan includes investing more in GT cars, especially if PAG is looking to reduce cost and cut racing programs which is part of the whole GT marketing approach.

I would guess we'll see cuts in GT and halo programs like the 960, and more money to protect the Macan/Cayenne/Pana lines from damage.
Old 11-04-2015, 10:22 AM
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Also note that there is a global stop sale on Macans currently due to a potential fuel line / fire issue.
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Global stop sale on Cayenne Diesel, also. Dealers have been told NOT to take these back on trade! Imagine the loss of value if you own one of these. I wouldn't buy one for 20k!!
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Bad news indeed... I was looking forward to a 4 team field next year, with the addition of Ford.

"Porsche GT Motorsport boss Dr. Frank-Steffan Walliser, who has not attended the last two WEC races, previously told Sportscar365 that a decision on its WEC GTE-Pro program would be made internally by the end of October."

FYI- there is a chance this isnt directly related to the Cayenne diesel.
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Well, if one reads the actual article, towards the bottom it states: "Ein Porsche-Sprecher hat das Ende des GT-Programms in der WEC auf Anfrage dementiert. Eine finale Entscheidung sei diesbezüglich noch nicht gefallen. (= A Porsche spokesperson had denied the end of the GT program within the WEC when asked. A final decision as regards this has not been made.)"
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Me no care about peppers!

If Porsche would have given me an RS allocation, this never would have happened.
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I mentioned this on another thread, and before the Diesel-gate scandal. John Hindhough pointed this out at Nurburgring WEC race. That Porsche will not want to continue in GT for 2016 but WEC were trying to convince them. John mentioned something about Porsche moving to a "mid engine" for 2017. Guess Porsche didn't win against WEC after all.
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Originally Posted by Zulu Alpha
I mentioned this on another thread, and before the Diesel-gate scandal. John Hindhough pointed this out at Nurburgring WEC race. That Porsche will not want to continue in GT for 2016 but WEC were trying to convince them. John mentioned something about Porsche moving to a "mid engine" for 2017. Guess Porsche didn't win against WEC after all.
This would've been the 960. I had also heard they were moving to this platform.......until a little Diesel fiasco occurred. Audi was also firmly going to be partners/purchase Red Bull F1. This all went on hold since DieselGate.
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Originally Posted by rosenbergendo
This would've been the 960. I had also heard they were moving to this platform.......until a little Diesel fiasco occurred. Audi was also firmly going to be partners/purchase Red Bull F1. This all went on hold since DieselGate.
Yep, Audi was pretty baked with Red Bull - Audi even hired F1 engine development talent from Ferrari. Now Red Bull has been threatening to leave F1 as they have no power unit for next year.
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Redbull does have a power unit available - a Ferrari 'B' spec - they just want one of the two best 2016 power units. That team wants its cake and to eat it too, and not put in the hard work at the back of the grid like another top team, McLaren, has had to do while developing the Honda engine.

Seeing how openly and quickly Red Bull was providing bad publicity for it's current engine supplier, would you, as a supplier, want to do anything with this team?

"Helmut Marko has made it clear they will not accept a ‘B’ spec engine which is all Ferrari are offering Red Bull. “If we don’t have a competitive engine we will leave Formula 1.”"


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