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Old 11-01-2015, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by NateOZ
GT4 has a better margin % than the RS - if I'm a VW shareholder, I don't care what they do as it is meaningless even pre the current problems. I would rather them expand the Macan production line to produce another 50,000 units...
There's margin % and margin $'s. Two ways to look at it. The RS I'm sure returns more dollar profits. Regardless, the 100K market adjustments are more $ profit per car than Porsche obviously makes on the RS. Has to **** someone off at PAG.

It's interesting. Talked to a huge BMW aftermarket parts supplier Friday on a Porsche related matter. Discussing the huge aftermarket business in the BMW world. BMW saw all the money being made there and with the tuning, and they started offering all those parts themselves to capitalize on the market. Smart huh??

By the way, the used 991 GT3 market is at its highest inventory now than it's ever been. Many of them are sitting at dealers who overpaid to acquire them. The secondary market for them isn't ready to bite until prices come down. The guy spending close to or MSRP on a model that's on its 3rd year, wants it built to spec and wants no compromises. Not to mention, they're moving on to the next latest/greatest.
Old 11-01-2015, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by STG991
There's margin % and margin $'s. Two ways to look at it. The RS I'm sure returns more dollar profits.
This must be right. But I actually would've guessed percent profit is higher for the RS, as well.
Old 11-01-2015, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sportscentury
This must be right. But I actually would've guessed percent profit is higher for the RS, as well.
That I cannot say. No hard evidence. % wise, I'd say GT4 if I had to guess.

Although, I don't think more GT4's = more RS's necessarily. Time will tell. No clue.
Old 11-01-2015, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by NateOZ
GT4 has a better margin % than the RS - if I'm a VW shareholder, I don't care what they do as it is meaningless even pre the current problems. I would rather them expand the Macan production line to produce another 50,000 units...

exactly....
RS/Gt4/Gt3 are halo products..... if you want to make money build 50,000 Macan GTS.. that's where the money is. Have you seen how much the Macan apple connect costs?
Old 11-01-2015, 09:59 AM
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Exactly, a couple of hundred cars doesn't move the needle much. I bet the RS is more of a pain than it is profitable.
Old 11-01-2015, 10:25 AM
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The Macan will be the bread and butter for Porsche. That's no secret if you follow automotive financial points.

The RS is very profitable. But it also costs a lot to produce. If Porsche uses the money used in making an RS and makes, say three Macans, the profits eclipse what the RS would bring in. The RS is a brand maintainance tool.
Old 11-01-2015, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Laguna_Dude
I know for a fact that several dealers are getting more GT4 allocations; haven't heard anything on RS, but i agree; it's coming. Why would they let dealers make all that profit due to demand and limited supply? they have an obligation to shareholders to make more.
i got a GT4 allocation from a german dealership last week although the dealer told me all the way that there is not a chance in the world to get one. now he tells me the same about RS allocations….i have passed on the GT4 and wait for the RS now::))
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Old 11-01-2015, 10:38 AM
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Just got offered GT4 slot with paint to sample. Party.
Old 11-01-2015, 10:39 AM
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I passed on a GT4 allocation last week. I think they are still out there.
Old 11-01-2015, 11:43 AM
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Huracan lp580-2 is accepting order now. I got information form dealer last week. Msrp in Canada starts at 219k. 991 gt3 rs msrp starts form 200,700.
Old 11-01-2015, 11:46 AM
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I was offered gt4 slot last week. They are definitely going around. Can't wait for RS offer!
Old 11-01-2015, 11:55 AM
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Passed on two gt4 allocations. Noticed the the RS brokers have more and more coming in and premiums down from 150 over for modifiable builds to 100-110 over. Also see auto gallery in LA has 5 on the floor now. Don't want to start the economics debate again but for me I guess I just accepted I won't get an RS as while the premiums were annoying what really annoyed me were the dealer/broker attitudes in telling me how I couldn't miss out or missing out would be foolish so my stubborn nature kicked in and I wanted to see them eat it. Just wait till china comes clean and tanks the world economies...again.
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I know of someone that got the call thIs past Fri about a new RS allocation and put their order in-- he will have the car in March.
Old 11-01-2015, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Yup, I'd be pissed if I was a stakeholder PAG/VW. Btw, why are they limiting LWB seats for GT4s and Spyders recently? They are basically done building GT3s so to me that's a tell that they are reserving thoseLWB seats for more upcoming RS allocations. Just saying...
I can double confirm the seat situation; as I got called for GT4 allocation; but option P11 is not available at the moment.
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Originally Posted by markow
i got a GT4 allocation from a german dealership last week although the dealer told me all the way that there is not a chance in the world to get one. now he tells me the same about RS allocations….i have passed on the GT4 and wait for the RS now::))
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I am in the same boat; passed and waiting for an RS.


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