Kobalts Great White RS
05-29-2017, 05:12 AM
#799
05-29-2017, 09:04 AM
#800
Race Car
Thread Starter
26 of May 2017
In June 2016, the P1 LM was launched at Goodwood Festival of Speed, where it became the fastest road car to tackle the Goodwood Hill.
Over the past eleven months, as the five P1 LM production cars have been built, the identical prototype XP1LM road car has been testing. During the final phases at Nurburgring Nordschleife, XP1LM achieved a fastest lap of 6.43.2. After setting this new lap record, the car then drove directly from Nurburgring back home to the UK.
This project is the latest collaboration between Lanzante and Kenny Brack. Kenny Brack is known for his 1999 Indianapolis 500 win, 1998 Indy racing champion, and recent gold medal at the 2009 rally-x during the x-games. Lanzante first became globally synonymous with the McLaren name when it ran the semi-works Mclaren F1 GTR that won the 24 Hours of Le Mans in 1995.
The project also received support from McLaren, and Pirelli who made a specific size and compound road legal Trofeo tyre for the P1 LM.
The P1 LM road car is intended to be the quickest, rarest, and last of the P1 variants. All five P1 LM's are sold, and will be used in the USA, Japan, UAE and the UK.
Lanzante and Kenny Brack shall be allowing journalists to experience the P1 LM production car at the 2017 Goodwood Festival of speed, where they will also host a live talk about their Nürburgring achievements.
How the record was done (amazing, really):
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In June 2016, the P1 LM was launched at Goodwood Festival of Speed, where it became the fastest road car to tackle the Goodwood Hill.
Over the past eleven months, as the five P1 LM production cars have been built, the identical prototype XP1LM road car has been testing. During the final phases at Nurburgring Nordschleife, XP1LM achieved a fastest lap of 6.43.2. After setting this new lap record, the car then drove directly from Nurburgring back home to the UK.
This project is the latest collaboration between Lanzante and Kenny Brack. Kenny Brack is known for his 1999 Indianapolis 500 win, 1998 Indy racing champion, and recent gold medal at the 2009 rally-x during the x-games. Lanzante first became globally synonymous with the McLaren name when it ran the semi-works Mclaren F1 GTR that won the 24 Hours of Le Mans in 1995.
The project also received support from McLaren, and Pirelli who made a specific size and compound road legal Trofeo tyre for the P1 LM.
The P1 LM road car is intended to be the quickest, rarest, and last of the P1 variants. All five P1 LM's are sold, and will be used in the USA, Japan, UAE and the UK.
Lanzante and Kenny Brack shall be allowing journalists to experience the P1 LM production car at the 2017 Goodwood Festival of speed, where they will also host a live talk about their Nürburgring achievements.
How the record was done (amazing, really):
Jump to 17:00
Last edited by Kobalt; 06-08-2017 at 04:44 AM. Reason: Added How record was done
05-29-2017, 10:32 AM
#801
Race Director
Awesome pics, Kobalt. So jealous!
05-29-2017, 11:15 AM
#802
Race Car
Thread Starter
Don't be Rob, it was a pain being there: too good weather, too nice people, too good beer, too good food, too good track... You get it!
Seriously: Very difficult to relay the experience. I suppose it boils down to:
If you can, do the N24.
Of course the weather is a very important factor but everything was so accessible.
I had no problems with too much people anywhere. No crazy Disneyland lines nowhere.
I stayed at a small B&B in Nürburg itself which located inside Nordschleife. This made it really easy to go to the various spots I wanted to reach.
The majority of the people are camping around the track.
Having bicycle is worth a lot.
I have no ideas how the traffic was from the area after the race but I assume that there must have been a lot of vehicles on the roads.
My best friend (to the left)
Seriously: Very difficult to relay the experience. I suppose it boils down to:
If you can, do the N24.
Of course the weather is a very important factor but everything was so accessible.
I had no problems with too much people anywhere. No crazy Disneyland lines nowhere.
I stayed at a small B&B in Nürburg itself which located inside Nordschleife. This made it really easy to go to the various spots I wanted to reach.
The majority of the people are camping around the track.
Having bicycle is worth a lot.
I have no ideas how the traffic was from the area after the race but I assume that there must have been a lot of vehicles on the roads.
My best friend (to the left)
Last edited by Kobalt; 05-29-2017 at 12:10 PM.
05-29-2017, 11:57 AM
#803
Race Director
Kobalt, you really know how to kick a guy when he's down. lol
Sounds awesome!
Sounds awesome!
05-29-2017, 11:58 AM
#804
With all of the new pavement, sounds like the 918 needs to go back out and reset fastest lap. I suspect Michelin would be willing to build some new rubber too.
05-29-2017, 12:34 PM
#805
Race Car
Thread Starter
Aremberg's got new pavement and is an important corner leading to Fuchsröhre. Might be faster now. Other than that I'm not sure that there is so many seconds to win - but what do I know.
I agree that it definitely would be interesting.
There is a lot of factors that all most come together in order to get that perfect lap.
FWIW:
It is really interesting how the McLaren P1 GTR LM did it's lap: They did it in the morning before 8 a clock on a trackday. A trackday that later turned out to be a very wet and cold day. I was not on site when they did the lap, I came there 30 minutes after but to me it was like: "Let's drive to the Ring [from England] and have some fast, fun laps.". As if they are regular Ring Junkies like the rest of us.
Porsche on the other hand when setting the 991.2 GT3 lap had a whole team on site changing tires in between runs etc - looking for that perfect lap.
05-30-2017, 12:22 AM
#806
Rennlist Member
Not sure if Porsche is even remotely interested in setting a faster lap time at the Ring after the P1 GTR.
They are the 1st to break 7 mins, (who remembers the 2nd guy to set foot on the moon?) their record is already 2 years old, (no other previous record holder went back to try and retake the title), the P1 GTR is very different than the regular production P1 and it's not a even a official McLaren product.
The 918 was clearly the fastest of the trio in it's era, but time goes on and there will always be faster cars.
Hell my 94 Turbo 3.6 was the fastest car back in 93, now it doesn't even feel fast.
The record making 918 was a prototype, without all the updates, ran on the old track that's a few seconds slower, and they had quite a few seconds to be had last time around if they wanted to really push it. With new tires, latest updates and the faster track, making up 15 seconds is not quite that big of a challenge, it could be close.
The next big mark on the Ring is breaking 6:30, not the incremental gain from 7:00.
They are the 1st to break 7 mins, (who remembers the 2nd guy to set foot on the moon?) their record is already 2 years old, (no other previous record holder went back to try and retake the title), the P1 GTR is very different than the regular production P1 and it's not a even a official McLaren product.
The 918 was clearly the fastest of the trio in it's era, but time goes on and there will always be faster cars.
Hell my 94 Turbo 3.6 was the fastest car back in 93, now it doesn't even feel fast.
The record making 918 was a prototype, without all the updates, ran on the old track that's a few seconds slower, and they had quite a few seconds to be had last time around if they wanted to really push it. With new tires, latest updates and the faster track, making up 15 seconds is not quite that big of a challenge, it could be close.
The next big mark on the Ring is breaking 6:30, not the incremental gain from 7:00.
05-30-2017, 02:16 AM
#807
Race Car
Thread Starter
Not sure if Porsche is even remotely interested in setting a faster lap time at the Ring after the P1 GTR. They are the 1st to break 7 mins, (who remembers the 2nd guy to set foot on the moon?) their record is already 2 years old, (no other previous record holder went back to try and retake the title), the P1 GTR is very different than the regular production P1 and it's not a even a official McLaren product. The 918 was clearly the fastest of the trio in it's era, but time goes on and there will always be faster cars. Hell my 94 Turbo 3.6 was the fastest car back in 93, now it doesn't even feel fast. The record making 918 was a prototype, without all the updates, ran on the old track that's a few seconds slower, and they had quite a few seconds to be had last time around if they wanted to really push it. With new tires, latest updates and the faster track, making up 15 seconds is not quite that big of a challenge, it could be close. The next big mark on the Ring is breaking 6:30, not the incremental gain from 7:00.
Well said.
And great to meet you there!
05-30-2017, 05:45 AM
#809
Race Car
Thread Starter
Jean, Great picts!
It was very interesting talking to you, enjoyed it. Met your friend who drove "the car that refuses to die" later at Pistenclause and he seemed happy with the race
I forgot to ask you about your motorcycle but we can do that off-line.
It was very interesting talking to you, enjoyed it. Met your friend who drove "the car that refuses to die" later at Pistenclause and he seemed happy with the race
I forgot to ask you about your motorcycle but we can do that off-line.
05-30-2017, 06:11 AM
#810
Race Car
Thread Starter
They didn't let me test drive it: I don't like Mercedes any more...
View from the Rowe lounge. Too the right it is the exit from Nordschleife. To the left the entrance from the GP track to Nordschleife.<br/>The Nürburg Castle to the left then you see the T13 Tribune where the old pit lane is which is used by the Industrial pool and races where the GP-track is not used. For instance some of the RCN-races. I think this is the highest part of the Nordschleife. in the background you can see what once where an volcano. It is Hohe Acht. On top of Hohe Acht there is a tower. Amazing view over the Eifel mountains from that tower. It was build for the emperor when he came to visit so he could see how beautiful the Eifel region is. Wonder if he enjoyed the walk up the tower
View from the Rowe lounge
