TRAKCAR does ED
10-25-2015, 04:07 PM
#724
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It was tracksdays.ch
Nice guys, great group just a bit easy with track discipline, leaking cars and the big speed differences in cars and drivers made it a bit trickier than it needed to be.
Just in time, I put one on your tab ;-)
Nice guys, great group just a bit easy with track discipline, leaking cars and the big speed differences in cars and drivers made it a bit trickier than it needed to be.
Just in time, I put one on your tab ;-)
Last edited by TRAKCAR; 10-26-2015 at 05:16 AM.
10-25-2015, 06:45 PM
#725
Hi Peter, thanks for uploading the video from yesterday. Enjoy the Ring tomorrow, you should have nice weather. Would love to join again, but I need to earn some money tomorrow to pay my toys & trackdays 
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Keep in touch, including for the 'rubbing news'
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.Keep in touch, including for the 'rubbing news'
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10-26-2015, 03:07 AM
#728
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Yesterday's funny laps at Anneau du Rhinen, a solo clear run would have yielded a 1:19 and we did some 1:20's but we had some GPS and other shenanigans :-)
10-26-2015, 05:23 AM
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Front pads
There are the front pads after about 16 track days and some of them were the hardest brake tracks I have ever been to.. Many, many stops from 150Mph to 30Mph..
The fronts stopped great even after shiny like this and pretty worn out, but you do have to bed them in. Hold up good, very clean on the wheels, no squeeling.
The second set that I only used at Hockenheim, the Ring and Anneau Du Rhin had less material transfer after cooling down because the first session was in the rain in Hockenheim, so that bedded them in I suppose. I'd get them pre-bedded.
The fronts stopped great even after shiny like this and pretty worn out, but you do have to bed them in. Hold up good, very clean on the wheels, no squeeling.
The second set that I only used at Hockenheim, the Ring and Anneau Du Rhin had less material transfer after cooling down because the first session was in the rain in Hockenheim, so that bedded them in I suppose. I'd get them pre-bedded.
10-26-2015, 05:32 AM
#731
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OEM Rotors
Rear rotors are like new, never need replacing.
Front rotors are about done after 18 days. holes almost connecting, cracks almost connecting to the edge, so I usually replace them around now. But they could go for more days on track with proper cool down laps before the crack all the way through.
I think Brembo sells an even longer lasting 2mm thicker slotted front rotor, but these will work fine for most.
I gave them a real good trashing for about 18 track days, maybe 3 or so at the Ring don't count but the rest sure counted for full on track days.
I'll take some pics later to show level of wear.
Front rotors are about done after 18 days. holes almost connecting, cracks almost connecting to the edge, so I usually replace them around now. But they could go for more days on track with proper cool down laps before the crack all the way through.
I think Brembo sells an even longer lasting 2mm thicker slotted front rotor, but these will work fine for most.
I gave them a real good trashing for about 18 track days, maybe 3 or so at the Ring don't count but the rest sure counted for full on track days.
I'll take some pics later to show level of wear.
10-26-2015, 07:19 AM
#733
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From Rennteam user LP997
"I see the document today from the Porsche workshop chief. It's an official document from Porsche AG, it's write the problem with the front suspension and also the rear. it try to find a solution, once Porsche found the problem recall of my car will be made."
"I see the document today from the Porsche workshop chief. It's an official document from Porsche AG, it's write the problem with the front suspension and also the rear. it try to find a solution, once Porsche found the problem recall of my car will be made."
From user RC on Rennteam as of today:
"German customers are receiving a notice from their dealers as well...so unfortunately..."
10-26-2015, 11:53 AM
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They've known about the issue since before they even launched the car. AP sound bites in a number of occasions in how hard it was to fit the wheels under there how tight it was and even in one later interview how there could be some rubbing. They had plenty of time to get this sorted as the RS was delayed a year - but I suspect it's actually a design issue.All of this before the first cars reached customer hands. I wonder why journos didn't say anything? Probably why they didn't ever question the 2-400 rpm that had been short changed. The 991 GT3 and RS are both cars that needed more development time IMO. They went too far too fast. The GT3 is overall polished but it's engine was the weakest link. The RS has addressed these weaknesses but it's left a smaller performance advantage and the aero and contact patch were always on the edge of the envelope in terms of what would function without compromise.
AP states next generation will not be huge change. I think this is a confession that they still have some unfinished work to do from this generation myself.
Any recall would surely be ineffective with the liners. Giving stiffer shocks or asking the tech to lift the car by 2cm would only affect performance or upset dynamics. They could re design the liners to reduce the areas they rub?
I think it's just something you live with like GT3 owners live with smoke on start up and consuming half a quart of oil during a hard track day.......
AP states next generation will not be huge change. I think this is a confession that they still have some unfinished work to do from this generation myself.
Any recall would surely be ineffective with the liners. Giving stiffer shocks or asking the tech to lift the car by 2cm would only affect performance or upset dynamics. They could re design the liners to reduce the areas they rub?
I think it's just something you live with like GT3 owners live with smoke on start up and consuming half a quart of oil during a hard track day.......
I suspect the more likely culprit is not design but a supplier part not meeting spec. Could be shock, spring, wheel offset, who knows, but should be correctable once identified. Doesn't really worry me.
As to the other comments on motor, aggressive development, etc, all I can say is that you're preaching to the choir. Looking forward to the(a) new motor finally making its debut in the GT3R soon.......
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10-26-2015, 01:13 PM
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Peter,
I just spoke to a guy who raced his RS last week end in Magny-Cours . ( there was the Swiss Porsche Cup and GT3 races )
He RAISED his car , so it does not touch . He said all other alignment settings need to be standard for the moment . And he managed his best lap in 1.51.9 .
I just spoke to a guy who raced his RS last week end in Magny-Cours . ( there was the Swiss Porsche Cup and GT3 races )
He RAISED his car , so it does not touch . He said all other alignment settings need to be standard for the moment . And he managed his best lap in 1.51.9 .