montoya

At some point it is a used car legally and VAT taxes are due- you avoid that through the program, I am not sure what the legal limit is and who checks it.... but Peter is definitely pushing the boundaries. It is a steep tax- like 20K

signes

Tax is quite a bit higher than that... Pretty sure the time limit is 6 months. TRAKCAR is rewriting the notion of acceptable mileage. Lol

GrantG

It should be ok at only 3 months (as long as under 6, I think). BTW, the tax is more than that (19% or 20%, I think)

Todd B

Awesome mileage, and to think I was proud when I did 1600 miles on my ED.

Germany VAT is 19% so that could be a hefty bill.

signes

The VAT deposit was over $42k for my car (thankfully didn't have to leave it).

mdrums

Thanks for the reply’s...still lost on why they care about mileage on a car that you are not buying or registering in their country...you just get to drive it around in the Porsche Euro Delivery program for a few months then it gets shipped to the USA.

Wind911

It's to prevent resourceful Europeans from ordering a car in USA and doing the ED, then keeping the car indefinitely in Europe thus avoid paying the 19% VAT on top of also paying lower US MSRP.

Sort of like Montana registration that ppl are doing here....only at even greater savings!

GrantG

Recent GT cars’ prices have been increasing relative to Germany. GT2 RS, Speedster, Spyder, and GT4 now cost more US Dollars (before tax) than Germans pay Euros (including 19% VAT). That’s a new unwelcome trend

.2 GT3 cost many thousand fewer dollars than euros.

Of course a Euro is still more valuable than a Dollar (but not 19%).

robmypro

Somebody needs to test that theory! lol

Kobalt

It is not Porsche it is European law as I understands it. I think there is two parts I this: the new vs used car part and the fact that if a car is in an European country more than half the year for instance insurance is not valid any more.
I also think that the car should registered in the country where it spends most of its time.

Spyder75

The car is still considered new if it has less than 6k km's on it or is less than 6 months old. I assume the ED avoids paying the EU VAT as they are effectively new cars leaving the EU (if the criteria is met). That car would be considered Used I have no doubt, and in theory they could claim the EU VAT. Hopefully they don't bother checking the km's..

TRAKCAR

None of my ED cars had under 6000km.
This is not like buying a car in Europe and exporting it, claiming VAT back.

The car was never registered, except by Porsche itself.

TRAKCAR

Couldn’t find any.
When they changed it to 3 months all the paperwork changed.

GrantG

Exactly - so it's new if at least one of those conditions is satisfied (it's newer than 6 months) - so, no problem

mdrums

Ah got it now...thanks!